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I mean I do care about it in the sense that I care about not wanting the US to become even more of a white supremacist Christian fascist imperialist genocidal autocracy than it already is. But I don't see anything I can do about it that would be even remotely effective. And more than that I just don't see anyone else who actually cares about it enough to even try to do something about it so what good is me "caring" even supposed to do?

Now I do see a lot of white liberals (and "progressives", and even some white people who consider themselves leftists) panicking about it. But then when pressed about what is to be done to stop it, their solution is always, always, ALWAYS just "vote for (Genocide) Joe", which tells me they don't actually care about Project 2025, they just want to use it as a cudgel to get me to vote for the same ghouls who are blowing up Palestinians and who have let the spooky scary Republican Party get this powerful. But when I point out to them that they obviously don't really care because they aren't interested in addressing the roots of fascism or doing anything real to stop fascism, they get all indignant and upset at me, call my takes "disturbing", "monstrous", "privileged", "psychotic", and after getting that a bunch I do have to wonder if maybe I just have some massive blind spot and am getting this wrong. But they won't tell me what is actually factually wrong about what I say.

Besides, what do they want me to do about it? They can't seriously expect me to back a party that loves genocide, but they won't suggest anything else.

Idk I just feel like the majority of people I see raising a fuss about Project 2025 and the threat of a "Trump dictatorship" are comfortable, privileged white liberals, usually white queer liberals, who have never had to worry about the government targeting their demographics until the last few years. I and every other queer poc I know is like, "oh, they're going to go after me for another thing? Sure whatever, put it on the pile of other shit they throw at us, what's one more? Now let's get back to trying to stop the fascist Democratic Party from stealing money from our paychecks to bankroll a genocide against some of the actual most vulnerable and oppressed people in the world. If Project 2025 actually lands here we'll fight that too, but we will NEVER throw away our solidarity with the wretched of the earth to preserve what comfort we do have."

Please Hexbearians, tell it to me straight: Is Project 2025 something we actually need to pay attention to and if so what can we actually do about it? Or is the furor over it just a bunch of fragile white people panicking because they might finally be lumped in with the rest of us and finally get targeted for oppression too?

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I haven't exactly read the thing cover to cover, but my understanding is it's the Heritage Foundation going "What if someone competent had won in 2020?" and lays out the plan to replace even more people who do the functions of government - including people with actual jobs - with handpicked toadies. This would be pretty bad and hard to reverse and is likely to have major and unpleasant consequences if it goes through, but, as with all wishlists, they need someone in charge to actually carry it out, and it really just promises an acceleration of existing trends.

Theoretically - because it requires someone to actually go through the motions of doing this under the color of law - the Democrats could take steps to prevent or at least slow its implementation, but the fact that they intend to drop their opposition after putting up the typical token show of resistance is evident in the fact that no one has outlined a plan beyond "get Biden's desiccated husk fused to the chair of the Resolute Desk."

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They should release their own project 2025 if they want to convince us they have any plan at all. As is it is clear the Democrats have no plan beyond, as BlueMagaChud said, fundraising off it. They love to lose.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

I think there's a think tank in the democrats' orbit that would be willing to put one together (or is currently trying to), but we'll probably never hear about it because there's no appetite at the top for admitting the system needs to be changed. The day prominent national democrats go up on stage and admit there needs to be more action than preventing a single high-profile bad actor from getting a job and passing tax credits for electric cars is the day most of their donors head for the exits. So they're stuck in a state of existing solely in opposition to the Bad Thing Du Jour.