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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Gee almost like Christianity is a bad model for how to run a society.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, yes, but the founding idiots were mostly Unitarian, transcendentalist, deists, or some mixture of contradictory beliefs. And these beliefs were not even a reason or justification as to why they did anything. James Madison is especially clear that his goals are to protect the landed class.

In England, at this day, if elections were open to all classes of people, the property of the landed proprietors would be insecure. An agrarian law would soon take place. If these observations be just, our government ought to secure the permanent interests of the country against innovation. Landholders ought to have a share in the government, to support these invaluable interests and to balance and check the other. They ought to be so constituted as to protect the minority of the opulent against the majority. The senate, therefore, ought to be this body; and to answer these purposes, they ought to have permanency and stability...

The second method will be exemplified in the federal republic of the United States. Whilst all authority in it will be derived from, and dependent on the society, the society itself will be broken into so many parts, interests, and classes of citizens, that the rights of individuals, or of the minority, will be in little danger from interested combinations of the majority.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I think organized Christianity was still the water they were all swimming in, though, and it doesn't seem coincidental that it was popular with both the late Roman empire and the kings of the middle ages as an ideological scaffold for a stratified class system.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Acts 4:32-35

All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.

Idk this sounds pretty cool to me cross-and-sickle

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago

Yeah, but then there's passages about how to treat your slaves.

Almost as if there's no consistency in a book originally passed down through word of mouth and then elaborated on by a couple dozen authors.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And then they all lived happily ever after. The End.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Boy I sure am glad that the Church never changed from this communist model!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Just 20 centuries of nonstop good vibes and sharing!