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submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 
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[–] [email protected] 182 points 4 months ago (54 children)

I am a tankie and voting for Biden lmao. The Prolitariat must be protected till enough class conciousness is achieved for Socialism to succeed.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 4 months ago (1 children)

THANK YOU. It's that fkin simple.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So simple, yet so hard for so many to understand.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 4 months ago (2 children)

And I'd vote for a corpse before I vote for 34 time Convicted Felon Donald Trump. Eat the rich. Pack the courts. Seize the assets of felonious companies.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mother fucker could be Dracula for all I care. Still voting for him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (3 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

There is russian meme "voting for stool just to vote against UR".

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You sound like a rational tankie, which by the definitions that lemmies have explained to me, would make you not a tankie.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (5 children)

"Anyone who thinks themselves a tankie is too self aware to be one" sounds like one of those fallacies you'd learn about in highschool. (What is a tankie, btw? I've been too scared to ask...)*

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (28 children)

A tankie is, broadly, someone who wants to effect left-wing ideology using authoritarian methods. It originally referred to those who defended the USSR using tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution, but it could be aptly used to describe those who defend China's actions in Tiananmen Square. It's rightfully used as a perjorative, since authoritarian enforcement is antithetical to leftism, particularly communism.

Tankies are hypocrites who didn't understand their self-proclaimed ideologies. If someone's idea of communist praxis is lining up dissenters for the firing squad, you're dealing with a tankie.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I'm a tankie. What tankie is supposed to mean is someone who blindly supports anything anyone does so long as they claim to be communist and wave a red flag. There's maybe a handful of edgy teens who actually fit that description, but the way it's actually used is to punch left at anyone who supports anything a socialist country has ever done, or who is insufficiently patriotic/nationalistic and is willing to consider things from an internationalist perspective.

If you say for example that Cuba under Castro had a successful literacy program, then there are people who will accuse you of being a tankie just for that. Because it gets used this way, some people like myself chose to reclaim the insult and wear it proudly.

Generally, the actual term for most "tankies" would be Marxist-Leninist. But I actually prefer tankie because it's a more general, big tent label. It's used so broadly that even anarchists can be called tankies. It's basically like "woke" where it doesn't actually have any real meaning.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well I think there are probably a half dozen interpretations that people on Lemmy use. One I have heard repeated is that they view the Tiananmen Square event as something that China rightfully did... hence "Tankie"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

The idea that that's the origin of the term is a common misconception. The actual origin was about the USSR under Kruschev sending in the military in response to a rebellion in Hungary. Some British communists supported the move, while other communists opposed it and labeled the supporters as tankies.

But regardless of the origin, it's changed to where now it's liberals using it to criticize socialists in general.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (36 children)

You get it! We can't fuck over vulnerable people. We can't abandon minorities and LGBT people. Even if we let things get worse to the point of a societal collapse, a lot of people will die because of it -- and societal collapse has not historically led to better societies down the road.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's such an important point. Anyone who thinks a win by Trump will somehow speed up the advent of socialism is just deluded.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

People think Trump will eventually make things so bad that the average man will salivate at the chance for Socialist rule...

What will actually happen if you get a nasty concoction made from a pinch of Handmaid's Tale with a dash of Holocaust 2....

And the average man won't care, as long as the trains run on time and they owned the libs... and if the trains don't run on time, they probably have libs to blame.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

trains run on time

I am here to regretfully inform you about the state of american rail infrastructure...

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (49 children)

My trans friends are what keeps me committed to voting Biden no matter how disappointed I am in him. Things are already really scary for them right now and I can't be complicit in making them worse, even through inaction.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Consider me another one of your trans friends. If Trump gets elected I'm probably gonna die in a concentration camp. Don't do that to me, don't do that to them. I'm begging you for my life.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

As a transwoman as well, I second this!

Don't let the fascist win!

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Right? Imagine it's a fucking Saw Trap, and there's an easy way out without sacrificing anyone... and an equally easy way out sacrificing everyone. Make the less sociopathic choice.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago

Most based .ml user

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago

Based and practicalpilled

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Thank you for being a sane human 🙏

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

This is the way.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

On one hand I'd like it if the Democrats put up someone more certain to beat Trump. On the other Joe has shown he supports labor and things are moving in the right direction in that regard. I'd hate it if he we get a corpo Democrat that halts this progress.

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