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[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago (4 children) The worst part is he was coherent afterwards. The fuck happened. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] elgordino@fedia.io 60 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think he was massively over coached. Trying to fight to remember a ton of talking points and then getting them muddled up and stuck in that detail. He’d have been better off just freestyling it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Seriously he just needed one or two dark brandon moments to get trump on tilt and it's smooth sailing from there. Oh well. I'll enjoy the dem campaign managers running around with their hair on fire while I can. They should've managed someone else into the spotlight years ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago I hate that the can't have notes, they should have a whole team up there to craft the best answer because that's what I want them to do in real life, work as a team leveraging all available resources to make the best choice permalink fedilink source parent [–] Icalasari@fedia.io 26 points 2 years ago (4 children) My bet is that Trump's stream of bullshit just threw Biden off completely, and his quick recovery to that fiery speech was him getting pissed that he got curbstomped by Shitler in a debate Next debate should hopefully be VERY different permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) No way should it have. In fact that should have been the literal one thing they were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hence him getting pissed after. Embarassment due to being stomped by a strategy he knows about permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago I may be a shitlib for saying this but biden debated trump before and handled him. There's no reason he couldn't have handled him now, except his brain is soup. Trump's brain is likely in a similar situation, but seeing as he already spoke like a 3rd grader, the difference isn't as alarming. permalink fedilink source parent [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) If that's what's true then both him and his prep team failed horribly. Everyone knew that was going to be Trump strategy. That's a very common conservative strategy. There's even words for it I've seen multiple YouTube videos breaking this issue down. Just a constant stream of unending lies. It's what they do. There's no way to beat it directly. The only thing you can do is scoff at it and redirect to something else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago Oh yeah for sure. It's why I think his later fire is due to him being pissed - I'd be pissed at myself too if I got thrown off by something I should have KNOWN was coming permalink fedilink source parent [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) My bet is that Trump’s stream of bullshit just threw Biden off completely, So, you think during those Camp David prep sessions everyone was talking about pre debate... Not a single person expected trump would show up and act exactly like he has in the last two elections? And you think it's fine to leave these people in charge of beating trump? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) exactly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Y'all nibbas need Jesus permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melkath@kbin.earth 3 points 2 years ago The deflection that has caused every Democrat loss in recent history. "Biden shit the bed. WhAt DiD tRuMp Do??!?!1/11!?" permalink fedilink source parent [–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago he was coherent afterwards He was reported coherent as soon as he was off camera. permalink fedilink source parent [–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 years ago He's at his very best when it comes to small talk & happy talk with small crowds of people. Small lines, empty promises. Quick touch-and-go interactions. No opposition. In debates where he's required to explain himself, answer lines of questioning (without teleprompter), not so much. It's also possible he got another shot of drugs post-debate to perk him up for the crowd of his own supporters. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] elgordino@fedia.io 60 points 2 years ago (2 children) I think he was massively over coached. Trying to fight to remember a ton of talking points and then getting them muddled up and stuck in that detail. He’d have been better off just freestyling it. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 4 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Seriously he just needed one or two dark brandon moments to get trump on tilt and it's smooth sailing from there. Oh well. I'll enjoy the dem campaign managers running around with their hair on fire while I can. They should've managed someone else into the spotlight years ago. permalink fedilink source parent [–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago I hate that the can't have notes, they should have a whole team up there to craft the best answer because that's what I want them to do in real life, work as a team leveraging all available resources to make the best choice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago Seriously he just needed one or two dark brandon moments to get trump on tilt and it's smooth sailing from there. Oh well. I'll enjoy the dem campaign managers running around with their hair on fire while I can. They should've managed someone else into the spotlight years ago. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago I hate that the can't have notes, they should have a whole team up there to craft the best answer because that's what I want them to do in real life, work as a team leveraging all available resources to make the best choice permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 26 points 2 years ago (4 children) My bet is that Trump's stream of bullshit just threw Biden off completely, and his quick recovery to that fiery speech was him getting pissed that he got curbstomped by Shitler in a debate Next debate should hopefully be VERY different permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 8 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) No way should it have. In fact that should have been the literal one thing they were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hence him getting pissed after. Embarassment due to being stomped by a strategy he knows about permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago I may be a shitlib for saying this but biden debated trump before and handled him. There's no reason he couldn't have handled him now, except his brain is soup. Trump's brain is likely in a similar situation, but seeing as he already spoke like a 3rd grader, the difference isn't as alarming. permalink fedilink source parent [–] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) If that's what's true then both him and his prep team failed horribly. Everyone knew that was going to be Trump strategy. That's a very common conservative strategy. There's even words for it I've seen multiple YouTube videos breaking this issue down. Just a constant stream of unending lies. It's what they do. There's no way to beat it directly. The only thing you can do is scoff at it and redirect to something else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago Oh yeah for sure. It's why I think his later fire is due to him being pissed - I'd be pissed at myself too if I got thrown off by something I should have KNOWN was coming permalink fedilink source parent [–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) My bet is that Trump’s stream of bullshit just threw Biden off completely, So, you think during those Camp David prep sessions everyone was talking about pre debate... Not a single person expected trump would show up and act exactly like he has in the last two elections? And you think it's fine to leave these people in charge of beating trump? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) exactly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Y'all nibbas need Jesus permalink fedilink source parent [–] Melkath@kbin.earth 3 points 2 years ago The deflection that has caused every Democrat loss in recent history. "Biden shit the bed. WhAt DiD tRuMp Do??!?!1/11!?" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 child) No way should it have. In fact that should have been the literal one thing they were expecting. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hence him getting pissed after. Embarassment due to being stomped by a strategy he knows about permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago I may be a shitlib for saying this but biden debated trump before and handled him. There's no reason he couldn't have handled him now, except his brain is soup. Trump's brain is likely in a similar situation, but seeing as he already spoke like a 3rd grader, the difference isn't as alarming. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago (1 child) Hence him getting pissed after. Embarassment due to being stomped by a strategy he knows about permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago I may be a shitlib for saying this but biden debated trump before and handled him. There's no reason he couldn't have handled him now, except his brain is soup. Trump's brain is likely in a similar situation, but seeing as he already spoke like a 3rd grader, the difference isn't as alarming. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago I may be a shitlib for saying this but biden debated trump before and handled him. There's no reason he couldn't have handled him now, except his brain is soup. Trump's brain is likely in a similar situation, but seeing as he already spoke like a 3rd grader, the difference isn't as alarming. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (1 child) If that's what's true then both him and his prep team failed horribly. Everyone knew that was going to be Trump strategy. That's a very common conservative strategy. There's even words for it I've seen multiple YouTube videos breaking this issue down. Just a constant stream of unending lies. It's what they do. There's no way to beat it directly. The only thing you can do is scoff at it and redirect to something else. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago Oh yeah for sure. It's why I think his later fire is due to him being pissed - I'd be pissed at myself too if I got thrown off by something I should have KNOWN was coming permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Icalasari@fedia.io 5 points 2 years ago Oh yeah for sure. It's why I think his later fire is due to him being pissed - I'd be pissed at myself too if I got thrown off by something I should have KNOWN was coming permalink fedilink source parent
[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 child) My bet is that Trump’s stream of bullshit just threw Biden off completely, So, you think during those Camp David prep sessions everyone was talking about pre debate... Not a single person expected trump would show up and act exactly like he has in the last two elections? And you think it's fine to leave these people in charge of beating trump? permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) exactly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Y'all nibbas need Jesus permalink fedilink source parent
[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 1 point 2 years ago (1 child) exactly. permalink fedilink source parent hideshow 2 child comments replies: [–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Y'all nibbas need Jesus permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago Y'all nibbas need Jesus permalink fedilink source parent
[–] Melkath@kbin.earth 3 points 2 years ago The deflection that has caused every Democrat loss in recent history. "Biden shit the bed. WhAt DiD tRuMp Do??!?!1/11!?" permalink fedilink source parent
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago he was coherent afterwards He was reported coherent as soon as he was off camera. permalink fedilink source parent
[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 1 point 2 years ago He's at his very best when it comes to small talk & happy talk with small crowds of people. Small lines, empty promises. Quick touch-and-go interactions. No opposition. In debates where he's required to explain himself, answer lines of questioning (without teleprompter), not so much. It's also possible he got another shot of drugs post-debate to perk him up for the crowd of his own supporters. permalink fedilink source parent