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Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that's it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn't so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Oh. My. God.

It's literally two old-as-fuck fucks arguing about their golf swings. This is literally how the debate is coming to a close. I just... I don't even know what to say.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (5 children)

That was ironically the best summary of the damn debate. Two out of touch liches talking about golf.

I wonder how the liberals feel now, that pushed Biden on electability and rejected any more radical options because they were too scary and conflicting with the party line.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I liked the golf part because you can tell it REALLY ticked Trump off.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The problem is he fucked the delivery and Trump got to be in the position to cut him off with a high road comeback. "Let's not be children." Biden muttered something after that but the damage was done.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Biden said "you are the child." It was a "no u" moment, so I rolled my eyes.

But to be fair, Biden also attacked Trump several times. He called him a liar to his face. He referred to him as "this guy," and called him a convicted felon.

Too bad he didn't have the same energy he had during the State of the Union.

Edit: sorry, I referred to moments other than the golf one. And yes, I agree with you. His delivery was poor.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah he had strong moments, but during the SOTU and 2020 debates he was far stronger. I actually believe he's sick. The problem is that excuse doesn't fly with the American people. It didn't help Hillary out either. That's also why I'm sure this isn't a speech impediment problem. Here's the 2020 debate. It's night and day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

I was very surprised to see him so... dim? precisely because of what you mentioned.

It didn't occur to me that he was probably sick.

Too bad the American people won't see it as a sign of strength, though. Being sick and still debating a moron? Not an easy task.

I wish he started with "First of all, you all have to excuse me because I got the flu [or the clap or whatever] - but I'm here and I'm ready!"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

They're as confident now as they were in October 2016.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Or anyone period.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Or even other moderate options.