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[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Cannabis is fun and has some medical benefits, like if you're a cancer patient trying to stimulate your appetite, but it also genuinely does lower your IQ.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

If you start at 25 or later when you're brain is fully formed, your IQ won't take a permanent hint unless you're a heavy smoker. It will still effect your memory to some degree tho, but that also goes for alcohol and other drugs.
Using in moderation is key.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It can kick off schizophrenia and depersonalization disorder. Here's some really good research on it: https://www.psychiatrypodcast.com/psychiatry-psychotherapy-podcast/2019/5/1/marijuana-and-mental-health.

I don't think occasional use is a big deal either, any more than a glass of wine, but it isn't great for chronic use.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

embrace other forms of therapy and medication that is a better long-term option.

Exactly this. For certain disorders cannabis simply won't help and potentially lead to psychological dependence.
For certain disorders like chronic pain, I don't even recommend using THC, instead go for CBD products.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Granted I was an almost constant user, I maintained a "high" basically from when I woke up until I went to bed at night. It was def a form of self medication, it did help with a lot of ADHD symptoms because rather than getting lazy I would get hyped and very active. Used it that way basically from a little before covid, all through covid, until November of last year. It did affect my work performance, looking back, but I interviewed for that job high, I went to work high most of the time, still got good reviews, raises and a promotion. I was addicted or dependent or whatever term you want to use. But like high functioning I guess.

But in November I crashed hard. Had a complete psychotic break. I thought the government was using 5g to beam mind control beams, an array of numbers containing hidden brainwashing instructions, to make me believe I was this person, when really I was a fake, an android put into this life to do their bidding, they killed the real me and I was the replacement, and this happened all the time, I just happened to pick up on one of their transmissions.

I'm a rational guy, I don't know where this shit came from. I have pages in my notebook documenting it. Luckily my wife is amazing and I was kind of able to talk myself out of it enough to have her convince me and remind me of what was real. Since then I had to quit. I def got some intelligence points back. And I haven't had any more episodes. But damn that scared the shit out of me. I didn't even know it was possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

On the addiction aspect, the addiction stems from purely psychological, at least in my experience, unlike other drugs like nicotine which is chemical/physical addiction. I've smoked weed and tobacco/vapes, was at one point dependent on weed but was able to quit cold turkey and haven't felt any cravings since.
Nicotine on the other hand is very much a constant battle that I feel like I could relapse at time, just a wiff of second hand smoke is enough to give me very strong withdrawal jitters. Infact, I feel that a heavy contributer of my weed dependency was a transference of my nicotine addiction.
In that sense, targeting mental health issues through therapy and appropriate prescriptions for co-occurring mental health conditions will likely help kick cannabis dependence.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Quitting smoking and vaping is harder, last year was the first time in my life where, after not having a cig in a long time, I was at a thing and people were smoking and I bummed one and it was absolutely disgusting to me. Felt great to hate it tbh.

But in like 13-15 years of habitual smoking I never had a psychotic episode from it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

There's multiple studies that suggests that the psychological dependency is bidirectional where as pre-existing mental disorders can lead to cannabis dependency, cannabis dependency can lead to exacerbation of the pre-existing mental disorders, and excessive use can lead to trigging mental disorders you maybe genetically prone too and commonly psychosis. Psychosis has symptoms overlapping with schizophrenia, however you're symptoms seem a bit extreme for Psychosis. Is there perhaps a history of schizophrenia &/or paranoid personality disorder in your family? If you don't know, perhaps consider looking into it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I don't know, maybe a proclivity but our family wasn't really the type for diagnosing mh disorders. I had to fight like hell to get my own diagnoses as an adult.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t object to anyone using that, but:

  • smoking it stinks up the whole block/park. You need to get a handle on that.
  • it’s a vice, don’t pretend otherwise. Be honest with yourself.
  • it does seem like a fun vice
[–] [email protected] -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

smoking it stinks up the whole block/park. You need to get a handle on that.

Sploofs and vapes

it’s a vice

Oh, you're one of those. No, it's not.

Vice: immoral or wicked behavior

All the salty downvoters mad because they personally find somethig immoral when it's not. Stay mad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Vice: bad habit, especially used as a form of escapism

Yes I’m one of those, my vice is alcohol, pleased to meet you.

You don’t need to be defensive about it: we all need a way to cope with life, something to let off a little steam. But it’s important to recognize it for what it is and be honest with yourself

[–] [email protected] -2 points 5 months ago

Vice: bad habit, especially used as a form of escapism

Not what it means. You'd also have to prove it's a bad habit even if it were the meaning

my vice is alcohol

Also not a vice unless you're a weird ass prude

You don’t need to be defensive about it

Pointing out your holier-thsn-thou attitude is stupid because you're straight-upwrong about something isn't being defensive.

You don't like it, that doesn't mean it's immoral to do it