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Claire*, 42, was always told: “Follow your dreams and the money will follow.” So that’s what she did. At 24, she opened a retail store with a friend in downtown Ottawa, Canada. She’d managed to save enough from a part-time government job during university to start the business without taking out a loan.

For many years, the store did well – they even opened a second location. Claire started to feel financially secure. “A few years ago I was like, wow, I actually might be able to do this until I retire,” she told me. “I’ll never be rich, but I have a really wonderful work-life balance and I’ll have enough.”

But in midlife, she can’t afford to buy a house, and she’s increasingly worried about what retirement would look like, or if it would even be possible. “Was I foolish to think this could work?” she now wonders.

She’s one of many millennials who, in their 40s, are panicking about the realities of midlife: financial precarity, housing insecurity, job instability and difficulty saving for the future. It’s a different kind of midlife crisis – less impulsive sports car purchase and more “will I ever retire?” In fact, a new survey of 1,000 millennials showed that 81% feel they can’t afford to have a midlife crisis. Our generation is the first to be downwardly mobile, at least in the US, and do less well than our parents financially. What will the next 40 years will look like?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Am millennial… xenniel or “elder millennial to be exact… I have completely given up on ever owning a home or being able to retire. Short of some major acts of public disruption at unprecedented, economy-toppling, billionaire-eating scale, my entire generation - and those after us - are fucked.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

And yet we act like boiled frogs, each generation making fun of the prior one for expecting things to be better than they are. Gen z is so used to things being like shit that they think that all older generations are entitled fuckers And that we should get used to everything being worse because Right now it’s the best they’ve ever known.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You only need like 5% down for a home. Zero if you are a veteran for some reason. Mortgage is almost always cheaper than renting.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately, this age-old folk wisdom just isn’t true any more.

Near Los Angeles (and many/most big cities these days) even “fixer-upper””starter” homes cost $1,000,000.

5% down ($50k) would result in a monthly mortgage payment of $7,939.88 which more than twice my rent payment, which is already high.

And saving is nearly impossible given the rate at which the basic costs of living (including rent) have skyrocketed in recent decades.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It worked for me last year. Put 5% on a home near a major city, purchase price $425k

Some areas like LA are just a special kind of fucked, but you don't have to live there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The lesson here is do the calculations for your area. There are a lot of "buy vs rent" calculators online.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I bought fairly recently (as interest rates were starting to climb) and it was 100% a qol decision rather than a financial one. I'm paying more in interest now than I was paying in rent before, so instead of giving my money away to a landlord, I'm giving it away to my mortgage company.

The only way I'll come out ahead financially is if the value goes up. But I have mixed feelings on that, too, because the housing situation is fucked here and value continuing to go up will mean that the situation is still fucked. I don't want this place to be my home forever, so if the price here goes up, then the price of better places will also go up and it ends up being a wash until I don't need to own and can sell, but even that would be tough because inheritance is probably going to be my daughter's only way of ever owning her own place.

Or, on the other hand, if they fix the housing issue here by limiting the number of residences any person can own and barring corporations from owning at all (or at least not having them count as new people for number of places they can own), then prices will crash and most people who currently has a mortgage will end up owing more than their house is worth and will still be fucked in that way. Unless the government makes the banks eat some of that or does a bailout for homeowners.

But anything in the above paragraph would probably take a revolution to actually happen because all of these bugs for regular people are features for those that have the wealth to influence the political power.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Or best option, rather than a crash we massage the housing market into stagnation for a decade or two with a combination of increased supply and gradual regulation. Stagnation in housing prices will over time let wages catch up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Even at 425 PMI is killing you to the tune of an extra 300/ month

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

$61/mo actually.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Zero down also for USDA home loans