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A Tesla was in its self-driving mode when it crashed into a parked patrol vehicle responding to a fatal crash in Orange County Thursday morning, police said. 

The officer was on traffic control duty blocking Orangethorpe Avenue in Fullerton for an investigation into a suspected DUI crash that left a motorcyclist dead around 9 p.m. Wednesday when his vehicle was struck.

A Fullerton Police Department spokesperson said the officer was standing outside his vehicle around midnight when he saw a Tesla driving in his direction and not slowing down.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Ugh I know people feel strongly about FSD and Tesla. As some one who uses it ( and still pays attention hands on wheels when activated) when FSD is active as soon as it sees anything resembling emergency lights it will beep and clearly disengage. I am not sure, but it's possible this person probably is just using Tesla as a scape goat for their own poor driving. However in my experience it will force the driver to take control when emergency lights are recognized specifically to avoid instances like this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Doesn't Tesla usually look at the logs for a situation like this, so we'll know shortly?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago

"As you can see by looking at the logs, the FSD was disengaged 276ms prior to the crash, therefore the driver is at fault" /s

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Assuming something was on, I'm not even convinced it was FSD and it could have easily been AP.

The media and police get that wrong more often than right, and the article isn't even specifically naming either one.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or could have been pressing the gas so it wouldn't brake anyway.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

I can't imagine a scenario where they'd be on FSD or AP pressing the accelerator AND looking at their phone.

It's one thing to press it because it's hesitant or something but that would usually mean you've presses it because it's not doing what you want which means you were watching.

Him admitting he was on his phone (if truthful) would mean he was pressing the accelerator thus overriding the input AND not paying attention.

It's a stretch to far.

If he lied about the phone to try and blame AP/FSD then that could make sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks for the tip, going to flash my blue flashlight at teslas from now on.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah sure if that's what makes you happy.... 👍. Nothing like blinding random people in cars in your spare time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

No, not the driver, the faulty sensors and programming that should've never been approved for the road.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait so how is it faulty and bad programming if it disengages when emergency vehicles are present? You'd prefer it to stay on in emergency situations?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Habe you read the article? It made the Tesla crash into the police car.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, hence my comment. Maybe go back and read (all the words) from the top ;-)