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These and other measures announced Friday marked Beijing's latest efforts to address issues in the massive real estate sector.

The People's Bank of China will provide 300 billion yuan ($42.25 billion) to financial institutions to lend to local state-owned enterprises (SOEs) so they can buy unsold apartments that have already been built.

Also Friday, the PBOC removed a floor on mortgage interest rates, and lowered the minimum down payment ratio for first- and second-time home buyers.

BEIJING — Chinese authorities on Friday pledged new support for state-owned enterprises to enable them to buy unsold apartments, in an effort that could help developers get more funding to finish construction on pre-sold properties.

These and other measures announced Friday marked Beijing's latest efforts to address issues in the massive real estate sector.

"I think it is encouraging that the policy is taking a turn of direction trying to support the housing market," said Zhu Ning, a professor of finance at Tsinghua University and author of the book "China's Guaranteed Bubble."

People's Bank of China Deputy Governor Tao Ling told reporters at a briefing Friday the central bank would provide 300 billion yuan ($42.25 billion) to financial institutions to lend to local state-owned enterprises (SOEs) so they can buy unsold apartments that have already been built.

The central bank expects the support to release 500 billion yuan in financing for such purchases, which the SOEs could turn into affordable housing.

The real estate companies can then use funds earned from those sales to complete construction on other apartments, the central bank said.

As for unfinished, pre-sold properties, the National Financial Regulatory Administration Deputy Director Xiao Yuanqi told reporters that commercial banks have provided 935 billion yuan in loans to finish construction on whitelisted projects since the program was released in January.

"The government's purchase of housing inventory can inject more liquidity to developers, who could then have more resources for housing delivery," Larry Hu, chief economist at Macquarie, told CNBC. "Finally the government stepped in as the buyer of the last resort."

"At this stage, it's mainly SOEs and local governments to implement the policies, but their resources may be too limited to move the needle at the macro level," he said. "Later on, we might see more efforts from the central government."

Developers "that must go bankrupt should go bankrupt, while those that need to be restructured should be restructured," Dong Jianguo, deputy head of the ministry of Housing and Urban-Rural Development, told reporters in Mandarin, translated by CNBC. He said homebuyers' interests and rights should be prioritized, and those that violate the law should be punished.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

By allowing developers to build more housing, they increase the supply of housing. Increased supply necessarily lowers cost.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

But there are already a lot of unsold housing units. That is the asset that the SOEs are purchasing from the real estate companies.

The issue isn't supply, it's that the prices of the existing supply are too high for people to buy - because real estate has been used as a wealth growth vehicle in China exactly the same as in the US.

We've already tried this in the US - giving money to developers to increase the supply of housing. It hasn't worked here, I'm not sure why it would work there unless the government actually caps the price of new units in order to force the construction of affordable housing.

Without additional regulation, this action is a wealth transfer, and nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Prices are falling for 2+ years now but they are very careful about it being gradual and controled. De-marketizing some housing stock (paying bellow market rates per unit mind you) by absorbing them into affordable state owned public housing initiatives will also relieve inventory while facilitating demand. Increasing the share of public housing is an obvious way to control prices and kneecap speculation potential in the sector going forward. The built housing is already there so making it public is an obvious step. The barriers and regulations against speculation ,overbuilding and corruption going forward for these private entities are a whole different thing and China has been pretty strict recently during this controled deflation of the sector

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are they just building to provide jobs and push the economy along?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That could be the case, but within the context of this article there's no discussion of building new units. This is about the government purchasing unsold units from the real estate companies.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

foucault-madness this is just like when millions were forced to default on their loans and be kicked out of their homes, 1984 communism no iPhone, the evil CCP is lowering the price of housing

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

the evil CCP is lowering the price of housing

Based on what? there's no discussion here of the housing prices being lowered, only of the government purchasing unsold units from real estate companies. At no point is there any indication that the government will provide those units to buyers at lower prices.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think we’re all operating under the assumption that would be a communist government’s end goal

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

If it were communist the government would be providing housing to the people at no cost. There's no indication of that either.

Has this government actually taken any such action?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

If it were communist the government would be providing housing to the people at no cost

who said. is china classless and moneyless

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Communism is when I have a utopia realized immediately with no regards for the cost, material conditions buildup required, or the context in which a revolution took place ☝️🤓

Shut the fuck up cracker

It's a communist party running and maintaining an imperfect and very real society. China's existence as a state, building towards socialism notably, has been defined by this required buildup because amerikkka france-cool ukkk emmiserated the shit out of China and it's people. All socialists have admitted that socialism is merely the goal, a society of pure working class and peasant control in both politics and the economy, but recognize that it will require a rich and advanced economy both to improve the lives of many and to allow them to participate in it's institutions as fully as socialism requires. Just because you're from a nation that doesn't even understand what a liberal is, let alone a communist, doesn't mean that the Communist Party of China (a communist party with more than 98 million members) is so naive.

If you're clearly so intelligent and able to dictate what the Chinese people should do you should focus on fixing the United States first, as it's currently committing a genocide. I think that takes far more priority than red bashing at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Chinese state taking a larger and larger role in the housing sector and various public affortable housing initiatives in various levels and models have been openly and officialy stated by the CPC as actions to be taken going forward. Most western coverages even of sales like the one we are talking about specificaly mention them being part of those policies

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I have many friends who are Chinese and they're still salty that the price of housing was lowered because many Chinese people used housing as an investment in the past. Beyond all this heady discussion, that's the only real effect this has had on the vast majority of homeowners in China (who are themselves the vast majority of people)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The government would need to spend more money, dept and productive capital and manpower to built the equivalent amount of units compared to what they buy from developers now. Also a lot of these are unfinished in various degrees too so in part jobs and construction under state hands or supervision will continue for those units for a productive end result

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The government would need to spend more money, dept and productive capital and manpower to built the equivalent amount of units compared to what they buy from developers now.

Sure, but that doesn't mean the government will be providing the purchased units to people at lower cost.

Also a lot of these are unfinished in various degrees too so in part jobs and construction under state hands or supervision will continue for those units for a productive end result

This is a separate issue, as per the article:

As for unfinished, pre-sold properties, the National Financial Regulatory Administration Deputy Director Xiao Yuanqi told reporters that commercial banks have provided 935 billion yuan in loans to finish construction on whitelisted projects since the program was released in January.

Loans for completing unfinished properties are coming from commercial banks, which is different from the money that PBOC is loaning to the SOEs to purchase unsold units from the real estate companies.