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To be fair, the two party system was a natural evolution within the government structure created by the Founding Fathers. Whether or not any individual president was a fan or not would never have prevented it.
Yeah, but they didn't have game theory then. Democracy was kind of new too. Basically all non-monarchists were allies, because they literally had to fight actual kings to rule themselves.
It's not the founders' fault that they didn't foresee all future problems. They included the ability to amend the Constitution. It's our fault for not doing that. Originalism makes no sense because the founders wanted us to change what they had done and improve it.
The Founding Fathers: "We're not gods or kings. That's literally the opposite of what we fought for."
Originalists: "OMG God-King Founding Daddies pls rule me from beyond the grave"
Hmm isn’t this 40k as well?
The Emperor of Man: “Gods don’t exist, use logic and science!”
The Imperium of Man: “All hail the God-Emperor, where are the 1000 sacrifices?”
And that's why it's called grimdark
A lot also said every 20 years the Constitution needed rewritten, because expecting such a powerful document to remain relevant over such a long period of time was unthinkable to them...
Iirc, №10 of the Federalist papers is specifically about how an overly strong federal government would lead to a 2 faction system, suggesting that the smaller states could more easily maintain multi-faction representative groups. But over the centuries, the federal government has become more proportionally powerful, which is a fact I'm sure all the non-monarchists would be horrified by.
Yes and no.
The Founding Fathers created the State in a manner that supported their interests, hence why it structurally supported wealthy Capitalists and slave owning white men most of all.
Over time, this has been amended, Black Americans were emancipated and every citizen can vote now, including women, but only via constant struggle against the system.
That doesn't relate to my comment or the original post. It's like you're trying to shoehorn in your own ideas about class war into the conversation.
In return, I would like to add add that George Washington did not have wooden teeth. In fact, he had weird Frankenstein dentures made up of a bunch of other different teeth. This supports my pro dental care ideas.
It absolutely relates. The two party system is a symptom of designing a system to bend but never break, and retain control of the people who made the system.
Believe it or not, human history is the history of class struggle. It isn't at all unrelated to how wealthy Capitalists designed a state to retain their power.
No, human history is the history of struggle against tooth decay. If you disagree, you are a tool of the anti-dentites.
No, I am the one who knocks.
Your analogy didnt really work the first time around, this is even worse
Considering many of the teeth in the "Frankenstein dentures" came from slaves or dead bodies of slaves....