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    [–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (5 children)

    Controversial opinion: you become a senior, when you let arch behind and use distros like debian.

    I don't dislike arch, going step by step through the install process is the best way learning and no matter which distro someone use, the arch wiki should be the first place to visit for instructions or help.

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah at some point, you want to do work on your computer, not work on your computer.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

    A technology connections viewer I see

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    i mean i do both so...

    [–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago

    I don’t know, I have had to fix more problems with supposedly “stable” distributions like Debian and co than I ever did with arch.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I disagree (a bit at least).

    Debian is just as prone to breaking due to the lack of fallbacks (e.g. Snapper), it just doesn't break as often because it doesn't change as much as Arch.
    If you use a minimal/ default install, this won't happen as easily, but as soon as you customise anything, you get problems.
    Arch can be reliable too, there are many people who have had the same install for years without breaking.

    I would actually recommend Fedora Atomic or other image based distros, e.g. VanillaOS.
    They can be more modern, while being way more reliable thanks to atomic updates/ transactions, complete image rollbacks and the reproducibility.
    They are a dream to use imo!

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    This is the way. Everyone can use what satisfies them. My arch experience was good, too. But after tinkering confs and setups, I lost my spirit to become a Unixporn user.

    Nowadays I want easy to use setups. That's why I use debian for servers and fedora for clients. Last week I saved an old laptop from a friend before being e-waste. Fedora atomic was the chosen one and he is really happy with it so far.

    [–] Vuraniute 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    you let arch behind and use distros like debian.

    does using nixos count ;-;

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (2 children)

    It is, if your priorities are to tinker even more with your computer. (nix configs, etc.) :)

    Using non-tech analogy, it is like having a "project car" to tinker with and a "daily driver" to get to and from work, if you are a car enthusiast.

    [–] Vuraniute 1 points 7 months ago

    i know more about planes than cars but i kind of get it

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, but for example I find the steam deck actually buggier than NixOS

    Just look at all the posts about the "discover" app crashing

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    But isn't that behavior actually documented in the Arch wiki? At least when you manually install it, it lists packagekit-qt6 as being "not recommended".

    [–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

    As far as I can tell, I'm just using it to install flatpaks so it should work fine

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

    I said I lt elsewhere already. The maturing "I use arch btw" crowd is steadily migrating to NixOS. In a few years at most .the meme will be "I use nixOS btw".

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

    NixOS is build on a really cool and impressive concept imho. Did you know an OpenBSD developer did like NixOS a lot ? https://dataswamp.org/~solene/

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

    No, you move to Artix then.