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I didn't realize Neanderthals were also 'humans.' —You learn something new everyday.
I think they're actually closer to us Sapiens than Asian elephants are to African elephants or an Atlantic salmon vs a Pacific.
There were around 15 human species other than us.
Homo Neanderthalsis went extinct around 30,000 years ago, Homo Floresiensis went extinct 12,000 years ago, and Homo Sapiens are still kicking around (for now)
We're the last humans left.
I thought the definition of species is a group that cannot interbreed with another group? Do you mean sub-species perhaps?
That is the the definition of species as laid out by Ernst Mayr, and it does have merit. It is a good definition but it gets a bit murkier at times, for example when polar and grizzly bears have fertile offspring, despite the polar being U. maritimus and the brown bear being U. arctos, commonly defined as different species of bear. As such, modern homo sapiens sometimes carry genes from H. neanderthalensis, but they are described as a different species to sapiens.
One issue that arises is that not all offspring between napiens and neanderthalsis were fertile.. The definition comes into question when only half the offspring between 2 ""species"" are fertile, are they different species or not?
There are multiple different concepts for defining species. The long and short of it is that species are not a fact of nature but a useful construct for us to be able to describe it.
Some other factors that are used to distinguish species:
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When you aren't a chud anthropology is the most interesting fucking thing in the world.
Yeah, Neanderthals and other close neighbor species are widely considered people at the very least, if not full human status. They had culture just like early homo sapiens did.
There were a half dozen or so species of human that would be able to interbreed with us but would also kinda feel like lord of the rings. Neanderthals were short and strong likes dwarves. Denisovans were probably very tall and thin like elves. Florensis were short kinda hobbit like. There would have been several other species of human we probably couldn't breed with but it is unclear how much we got to hang out with them. Let alone other great apes. Like, as a cave man baboons would look like orcs or goblins. They would be almost like you but stronger and less able to talk.