If the fish continues cleaning parasites, then it is still mutualistic. If the "host" benefits from the relationship overall, then it is mutualistic. If it doesn't benefit, and is actively harmed by the relationship, then it is parasitic.
bucho
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God, could you imagine the smell? That rubber suit of his would really seal in the flavor.
Yes. That is precisely what I'm arguing. They are a contradiction of terms. Mutualism is when both organisms prosper from their relationship. Parasitism is when one organism prospers at the expense of the other. There is zero overlap between those two things. If both organisms are prospering at least a little, that is mutualism. If only one organism is prospering, that is parasitism.
Like, am I taking crazy pills here? Or are you just stupid?
So, basically, what you're saying is that sometimes, if you do only a cursory glance, you can see relationships that are parasitic; however, if you do a more in-depth analysis, you find that they're mutually beneficial.
You know what that means? It means that you were completely fucking wrong when you called that relationship "parasitic". It means that doing your due diligence ruled your earlier evidence incorrect. It means that what you thought was "parasitic" is actually mutually beneficial. It means that "parasitic" and "mutually beneficial" are two completely different fucking things.
"mutually beneficial" and "parasitic" are mutually exclusive realities. "Mutually beneficial" means "you benefit and I benefit", while "parasitic" means "I benefit, and you lose out". It is impossible to be both at the same time.
So, I commented earlier about why right-wing opinions are trash in general, but I realized that I never addressed the meat of your question, which was: "Are[sic] Conservative/Right-Wing opinions completely unwelcome on Lemmy?". Which, I've gotta say, is an incredibly stupid fucking question. Lemmy is a federated space, which means that anybody can set up their own server, with their own rules, and be part of the wider "Lemmy". A much better question, since you're posting on beehaw.org is: "Are Conservative / Right-Wing opinions completely unwelcome on Beehaw?", which is answerable based on knowledge of the administrator(s) of Beehaw.
But, really, any fascist dipshit with a spare server and an internet connection can start their own Lemmy instance, and they'd fucking love your stupid fucking Right-Wing Opinions.
So, in short, your question is stupid, and your opinions are trash. Thank you, and goodnight.
I concede that you've got a point that austerity isn't an all or nothing proposition. But your examples are laughable. No country that has implemented "austerity measures" has ever interpreted that as "ending corporate subsidies", or "taxing the wealthy", or in any way fucking with the wealthy or military's purse. It just doesn't happen. I agree, that would be an amazing thing. But it just doesn't exist in human history. What ends up happening instead is that they cut the educational budget. Or they cut social programs, like housing subsidies or food subsidies. Because governments aren't run by the lowest common denominator, who actually benefits from those programs. They're run by the wealthy. So no government is going to fuck over its supporters by cutting their benefits.
True. Many of them are just plain evil. But I would argue that the vast majority are some combination of evil and stupid.
Aww. I'm sorry - did you hit your head?
If your "conservative / right wing opinion" is that austerity measures are a good thing, then the most generous interpretation of that is that you're just a moron. As it turns out, though, today's "conservative / right wing opinions" are way worse than that. Things like "trans people aren't people". Or "we should do a treason". Or "bribing supreme court justices is totally fine". If you hold any of those opinions, the most generous interpretation of that is that you're evil. And probably also stupid. That is the MOST generous interpretation, mind.
Yeah - I have no idea why all these stupid libruls are angry at the 10s of millions of traitorous dipshits who voted for a traitorous dipshit who did everything he could to ruin the country. Must be TDS.
You know what? That is fair. You're right - I was engaging in a purely semantics argument, and I'm sorry about that. It was dumb, and also assholish of me to assume that you didn't know what the fuck you were talking about and were just pulling things out of thin air. I see the point that it is useful to define relationships on a spectrum with fully parasitic at one end, and fully mutually beneficial at the other.