You're telling me fruits and the number 7 are just staples of the gambling industry?

An open secret is that among the black upper middle class there is an overrepresentation of misogynistic/homophobic/racist/conspiratorial army guys, cops, Christian guys, Black Muslim/hotep guys. Also, well educated conservative African and Caribbean immigrants.

Leftists and liberals do not really want to acknowledge this and don't want to acknowledge that the tradition, discipline and asceticism such people live by enable them a good degree of social mobility in the US generally unhindered by direct racism. People love saying that the "culture not race" argument is racist but these black folks I am describing will be the first people making that argument and nodding along to it, because to them that is the reality. They fear "urban" people in the same way as any old white Karen.

Both Dems and leftists sort of target their broad strokes messaging toward a swathe of POC and LGBTQ+ people and this inevitably lets the GOP peel off socially conservative members of these groups for whom racism or discrimination aren't really major day to day issues but taxes and banning LGBT education from schools are.

If the libs were more unapologetic on their affirmative action messaging (AA benefits such groups I'm describing most) and maybe announced sweeping targeted neighborhood revitalization efforts that improved the assimilation of inner city black kids, or blocked property valuation discrimination, all while telling the socially conservative people in marginalized groups that they are expected to coexist with people whose lifestyles they dislike but will be left alone otherwise, they might claw back some of the vote. But you all are blind if you think that the only people calling wayward black teen boys/girls "hoodlums/ghetto" are white boomers--rather than every black person I have ever known who does not live in a metropolitan area, including the liberal ones.

Tl;Dr most leftists and liberals who fight for better outcomes for black Americans do not really know that many middle class black people closely and so sometimes fail to craft messaging as resonant to their material realities as the GOP does.

Source: have been dating the same black partner for 6 years, and their father is a successful Trump and Alex Jones loving rich guy.

It works because most Republican communication now relies on like 10 layers of preexisting outrage lore, and only really has power if you are way too plugged in to the internet.

Think about how the conservative influencers always love to just post a picture of a random short haired/fat woman or skinny bespectacled man and go "THIS is the Biden Admin's/Video Game Company's appointee to so and so," egging on their dog-brained mouth breathers to accuse said person of being trans/soy/ran through/alone with cats whatever. Does any normal mature and non-insecure person engage with the greater world in this way? Does real human interaction ever really unfold so in line with arbitrary preconceptions, or are these chuds just dredging up half-remembered tropes from movies, advertising, and TV shows pretending they can pregame real human interaction?

No, you can only understand the right's weird taxonomy of humankind if you do not interact with humankind healthily or regularly, and are a social maladapt who cannot have conversations with anyone without first sizing them up and seeing if you will have enough canned lines for bluffing your normalcy through a conversation with them.

Do you remember at the middle school dance when there was that group of guys/girls who stood in the corner not dancing because they were scared to venture off and join the crowd, but were talking especially loudly at each other so that eavesdroppers might presume they were cool? Do you remember people like this talking shit about their peers who were self-affirmed enough to unironically have a good time being silly, or scoping for a more outcast group to pick on?

That is what conservative culture is now, antisocial, resentful, sexually-anxious middle school brained losers who haven't developed the social graces to improvise through life, people who bluff as the in-group by using self-serious/dehumanizing language to slander and bring down other people minding their own business. They are just finally being called out for being the sauceless pretenders who were being excluded all along for good reason, beneath this facade of normalcy and superiority they affected by doing their own excluding.

I think it's more the voice and look, no one is calling Stephen Miller funny for being even more naked about those views, Trump's way of speaking just makes it sound like he bumbled into them

Yeah I was just trying to say the "how much worse can it get?" People are being myopic, coming from someone who has been to the poor parts of India, Nepal, and Mexico, and China pre economic surge.

The thing people are missing when they scream at Redditors about genocide or Gaza to justify dropping support for AOC is that most people including the leftmost Democratic voter who sheds tears about Gaza still feels an abroad Arab person's life to be of lower worth than a White or Asian life on a visceral and subconscious level. I even include most of the people who attended the Free Palestine protests among this, I am sure some swathe of them will object to this move by the DSA too.

You cannot counterargue with these people effectively by mentioning the Gazan death toll, or even sharing gruesome images of civilian casualties, because Israel-Gaza will always be clocked by them as a pet issue in relation to domestic policy. Americans as a whole have sat through too many wars and their accompanying propaganda, and are too poorly traveled to have any better than an elevated noble savage view of any wartorn impoverished nation's people. Even garnering sufficient support for ending the war and blight relies more on appealing to these people's western chauvinism than their sincere empathy for Gazans as fellow human beings

I would absolutely love to see them try to get her to take the fall for the Parkinson's doctor, that would require true PR ingenuity

Yeah you should see some of the crap billboards idiots buy in the south, I saw one on vacation that just said something like "What happened to personal responsibility? Let's bring it back!"

I think it is not a matter of punching up or punching down but how either is done. If you straight up tell rural poor people you want to make their lives better and build a better future for all it will simply not connect and perhaps even get you called "gay." If you meet them where they are and tell them their towns aren't shit and they have been voting for shit because they have been too demoralized to pursue what they are owed, they might actually say you are giving the tough talk that is needed and that you aren't mincing words like some bullshitter.

You are less likely to uplift the already downtrodden by starting off with a message couched in positivity and auspiciousness, it just is not how the terms of engagement in such societies are. I have lived in the poorest areas in India, China, Jordan and the US and I know this much to be true. That is not to mention that rural red area politics aren't a monolith, and there are good chunks of people who are liberal but outnumbered, hate the beliefs and policies of where they are, and are forced to hold their tongue due to social pressure, and such people are just waiting for a fearless shit talker left-leaning leader to galvanize them and finally make their displeasure socially acceptable enough to voice.

They fundamentally don't understand Republicans, who would actually make up a new sensationalist thing about the opponent if their candidate did poorly, something Dems are too chickenshit to do. They could even play up Trump's association with Epstein but they are declining because they want to protect the Clintons from more negative press.

Yeah he's consistently stood by her while facing pressure daily to disavow and fire her

Call me crazy, but I sincerely, no joke, feel like in one of these debates Trump or his team might try to physically trip Biden or knock him over so that he falls and dies. I don't think it is beyond the scope of possibility that this could happen.