Krauerking

You've said nothing at all could be done. Not a thing cause everyone just doesn't agree correctly with your take. And you are now dismissive and resigned to this idea of failure.

I know enough to know you don't get to be right just cause you want to be. And you can't speak for others just cause you think you know better. And if you keep this mentality and ideas nothing is gonna change. So you either want that or don't care if you are wrong so you get to keep feeling the way you do.

Either way it's your own issues to solve.

Then you are a narcissist who thinks you can ignore others and bully them into agreeing with you cause you think of yourself as the only truth.

Your idea of right is your own. Blame everyone else then, but don't pretend it's productive or that you will get what you want from it just because.
Suggesting that there is no strategy change needed after proof it doesn't work over and over again makes you willingly ignorant as well. And extremely unlikely to ever get a goal you want.

It lets you have a scapegoat to not introspect or change. And yours is just as imaginary as the right and you blame millions of people for not being you.

Right.... It's everyone else that's the problem that the same tired tactics aren't working over and over again.

It's just those darn voters who need to be taught a lesson on how to vote properly. Those people that are hungry and poor just need to listen to what's good for them and their disagreement is obviously because they are shitty people who hate women.

Great talk. Can't wait to see all the outpour of support for that now and the 3rd victory in a row for Democrats. Because nothing need change and it's everyone else that's doing mental gymnastics.

Or maybe voting against something that you don't personally like is not a strong strategy for a nationwide election?

Suggesting that there was "nothing" at all she could have done to inspire voters is a cope. And refusal to listen to the reasons people vote the way they do.

Because she saw that she was gonna lose. Or thought it would fly under the radar to not piss off more but somehow convince others that she meant it?

The Democrats seemed to have thought the election a game that could be won with clever tactics and moves the whole time instead of meeting the challenge head on. Truly a shit show of poor party management.

2 days before election Harris announced legalized marijuana and 1 day before that she mentuoned she would be ok looking into Gaza more.

Her "first time homebuyers" aid was actually only for first generational homebuyers mainly immigrants and who had rented from a corporate owned apartment complex for 2 years.

Her business aid plan was for people who already had a business operating in specific cities and areas for "black men and others" to get loans. emphasis on "others" being her's not mine.

It was a campaign of protecting status quo first, not people. While telling them they didn't realize how good they had it.

Weak is an understatement.

I think you are right. I am mixing up the 12th with 2024 however it was not until Bernie dropped out that everyone started calling Biden the winner.

By March media was still calling Biden the nominee and you can find articles claiming Biden as the nominee by March 17th just with a quick Google search. Washington Post called it by March 15th in an article I can't read from a paywall.

After Biden won South Carolina (a single state) it was already being called as his win and by March 3rd most other candidates dropped and fell in line with Biden creating chaos in super Tuesday polling as voters were told their votes had been pointless.

I agree with you that if you look Biden didn't actually get the delegates needed to be the Nominee until June and that Bernie Sanders didn't drop until the 8th of April and his campaign was struggling at that point.

But that divide between what actually happened and how it's recorded is part of my point.

A large amount of effort was made to push people into a specific option and while it "worked" it does not mean it didn't come with a cost of voter engagement.

Get ready for all the stages of grief at the same time and I'll warn you.
Most people get stuck on denial and anger.

Of Obama for sure. Actually passed stuff instead of worked in them and everyone sorta patted them in the back saying "good job, at least you tried" about stuff.

A lot of those bills were basic spending bills that would have had to pass anyways with a title. Resuming loan forgiveness as it is written was nice but was hard to view as a positive and without the right PR completely missed as a positive by many.

Which is his biggest mistake. We didn't hear about his cabinet. No big speeches and pushing of younger replacements. No bully pulpit. Kamala showed up to break a tie a couple times but they just did it as a formality.

Being the president isn't supposed to just be a business man managing the books but the face and inspiration of a nation. It's a social role as well as functional. He failed that job completely. He was the right president for the wrong time. Him not accepting that made him worse.

I'm not sure how to parse what you're saying. As far as DNC rules are concerned, they "call" it once all primary races are held.

I believe it means that you weren't paying attention during the 2020 primaries or the news around them then. The DNC Does not wait and did not. Claiming Biden the Presumptive nominee ~~38 days~~ (that number is from 2024, media declared him presumptive nominee in a period about 4 days longer in 2020 still faster than trump in 24) after the first delegate picked. Obama took 120 days. To give you an idea of how fast that was, faster than Trump's nomination in 2020. (43 days)

You are correct though. The primary eventually went the way it went. He lost it by the rules but there is a reason people don't feel good about the rules presented and that needs to be dealt with.

I would also just want to finish with the simple, how is pointing out how popular his rallies were be a negative to his electability while being an usurper to someone in social and legal discourse?

It's truly almost worth thinking that the DNC has been infected with loud bad faith advisors who purposefully give bad advice at the hope that they would fail, à la: Wormtongue.

But nahhh... It's just a bunch of octogenarians with their fellow wealthy supporters kids acting as yes men that have lost all connection to the average voter.
They have everything they could want and forgot the struggle and think what's best for them is gonna be best for the new groups who just don't have it all yet and are trying to take it away from them before their time.

I'm not very old but Biden certainly wasn't for me.
He now gave us Trump as a second term so I would lower him further.
He gave us a nudge back into status quo in a world that is raging against it. If you were already comfortable with status quo before no wonder you view it as a miracle but it was not exactly good for a large portion even though they may end up worse after the shakeup.

Trump is and was still the worst. But I think I do represent the electorates desire for change even if I have been having to hold my nose and vote against it for the greater good while the crazies let rip and go for broke on a dream.