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This is actually very interesting and I had no idea. Thanks!

Just removed sync and added connect to the same spot today ... But when sync for Lemmy shows up, I'm gonna use that

Oh good.

Buckle up to read this headline again more or less every year for the rest of your life

I see a lot of folks referencing topology, but clearly topology is not a particularly good go-to for how to talk about holes.

• From a topological perspective, a hole in the ground isn't a hole... But you can still fall into it.

• From a topological perspective, a hole in your logic isn't a hole -- but you can still have one.

Clearly we're talking linguistically, not topologically.

I'm seeing a lot of this kind of taxonomical argument relying on material being removed, but it's not convincing. A taxonomical argument that relies on commonly accepted definitions, but does not include commonly accepted examples, is logically flawed.

It's normal, accepted usage to describe your anus and so forth as holes, despite no material having been removed.

Similarly, it's normal to describe Cheerios as having holes in the middle, or bagels as having holes in the middle, or a pool noodle as having a hole through it, or any number of similar things that are formed without any material being removed. It extends to the metaphysical, in fact; one can have a hole in their logic, for instance, without the implications that their logic must once have contained this item, until it was somehow removed.

A hole is an entirely contained negative space; I don't think it requires anything to have been removed.

A hollow cylinder has a single hole, with two openings. A hole can be open on one end only (e.g., a well is a hole in the ground), or it can have multiple openings (e.g., a straw has a hole with two openings).

If one cannot immediately tell whether two openings are connected to one another, then one assumes they are not; e.g., if you see a well in Florida you don't assume it is the opening of a hole that extends to connect to another opening in Australia.

Ha I'm not touching that shit

Oh I'm blocking 196 for sure

Rule

Ok but when the flood waters recede that Nokia is still gonna run like a goddamn champion

Me too! I guess we are just the heros you need

Yeah Jerboa is more or less useable, but I've switched to a different instance for now so I can use connect

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