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Won my first Magic The Gathering game today on Forge. (hexbear.net)
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https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-beginner-teaching-decks-1-green/

https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-beginner-teaching-decks-2-red/

^^ the two decks I used, I played green and the ai was red. Still getting the hang of this game but with over like 50k cards in the library and endless combos it's so deep. The AI is quite smart on Forge too. I've never played MTG in my life so this is all new to me.

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[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Oh hell yeah, nice. I just rediscovered my love for mtg after not playing for decade(s). There's a seemingly endless amount of depth to the game. I have barely touched a video game for months now because I have been spending all my game time working on decks and planning builds or just looking up cards. There's just so much strategy and mechanics to chew on.

I just wish it was more affordable. I forgot how expensive it is sadness

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Buy or make proxies, don't play with pretentious assholes that refuse to play someone with proxies because of x, y , or z, make them distinguishable from a real one so you don't get accused of x, y, or z , and have fun. There's no reason to drop thousands on cardboard, ink, and glue.

Edit: also MTG can become an easy allegorical teaching tool for flaws of capitalism, and may or may not be used to radicalize those who are reachable through gameplay and them realizing 9/10 times it's a pay to win game.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I've been trying to use it as a teaching tool and I've had minor to no success so far. One guy is already off the lib train and another two are Reddit gamers but I'm doing my best lol

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Forge is free and open source if you're looking to play against an ai and test things out.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's awesome. I'm going to check that out. The only digital mtg game I've tried was arena. It was ok.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Forge is pretty neat, it's part sim and part game, it's even got a quest mode.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

get into Pauper then. Commons only, top tier competitive decks are usually less than $100, and that's assuming you even want to get competitive.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Pauper is cool but a lot of the interesting card interactions for me start at uncommon and above nerd

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I play mono red so any card with more than 8 words of rules text is bullshit to me

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah the game costs a lot if you're trying to do everything. For the best bang for your buck I'd look at trying Commander with one of the pre-built decks and buy singles to upgrade. Either that or get into Draft. Constructed formats are the real money pits.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Commander is great. That's a new format for me so I just started playing. I started with a precon and have been building from there. I pretty much exclusively play commander now lol

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

That green deck definitely does pretty much cover all of greens strengths. I think enchanting lands have fallen out a bit and creatures and cards that allow you to fetch lands from your deck and put them directly into play are a bit more in favor now. This is an excellent deck to teach people what green cards typically do. I'm going to check out the other one later, but I assume it does the same thing but for red.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's part of a series of teaching magic to newbies via colored decks so yeah.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's very cool. I'm definitely going to try and build that deck to help teach new people. Thank you for sharing!

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

50k cards

Wut

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Game has been around since I believe 1995 and is very popular.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

But how the fuck can you balance a game with 50k cards

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

That's the neat part! You don't!

[-] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

49k of them aren't good enough for competitive play, and of the 1k that are there's enough give and take to keep lots of strategies viable.

But at the higher levels of competition you are dealing with a card pool of maybe 100 unique cards played across many decks. Much easier to manage!

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So basically Gwent but with waaay more forgotten cards

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There's definitely a lot of trash cards, but there's way more than 1k cards that regularly see play at tables. There's a ton of different deck archetypes and so some cards are better in certain decks than others. I think there might only be 1k cards at the very top level of competitive play, but those decks are worth thousands of dollars and are just not realistic for most players. It's kind of a completely different game once you get to that level.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Imagine paying for cards lmao

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The community is generally cool with people having some proxies in their deck (10-15) but unless everyone in the pod is playing with all proxies, having an entire deck full of proxies is kinda frowned on (I would not be comfortable showing up with an all proxy deck to a non-proxy game).

There are proxy events and formats and those are fun. There's a lot of two turn wins and infinite combos in those, but playing with all high power cards is great.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Proxy Vintage sounds like so much fun

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It's great! Sometimes it can result in some really annoying and frustrating games. There are some cards that are just broken and can result in some games that are really toxic for other players, but that isn't that often, and really only happens if you're playing with someone who is kind of an asshole anyway.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I think there's more than 100 at the top levels of competitive play.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah I might be off by a zero here. I'm just thinking if a player comes to me, says they want to play serious Modern tournaments, and wants to know what Red and Blue cards they should know, off the top of my head:

Counterspell

Murktide Regent

Spell Pierce

Force of Negation

Preordain

Subtlety

Ragavan

Lightning Bolt

Dragon's Rage Channeler

Uhh... Flame Of Anor?

That's 10 cards. There's others, but if you want a competitive Modern deck in Blue/Red the Murktide deck isn't far off from this list + lands.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe the truth is somewhere in between (radical mtg centrism). There's tons of different decks on moxfield using tons of different cards, but the card pool does shrink the higher up you go, depending on the format.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I don't know I'm just a newb but so far the decks I've played against each other seem to work.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One of the big things in Magic is formats, releases of new cards are called sets and those sets can be legal or illegal depending on which format you use

The most basic format is Standard, which means only the 4 most recent sets are legal to use in your deck, another popular format is Modern which allows every set after the 8th Edition to be played

There are exception (notably ban lists) to these

Formats are easier to balance than the entirety of the game since release (although the devs frequently fuck up the balance)

If you want more info : https://mtg.fandom.com/wiki/Format

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Standard rotates every three years now, which is kind of nice. It used to be too short IMO.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

It can be double edged tho, if the sets are whack you're kinda stuck with it

I dont follow competitive Magic too much these days, but I remember the community was seething about Throne of Eldraine at the time

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They introduced a new format (pioneer) that seems to be about the same rotation that standard used to be (~4 most recent sets). I very recently just got back in so I'm still learning about a bunch of the stuff I missed. I think those format changes just happened.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As someone who just shelled out for Fallout X MtG cards, welcome to the fold my friend

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I just got the mutant menace one. I really wanted to get the dogmeat one too but my wallet is already angry with me lol

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I had some birthday money laying around, so I splurged and got all of them, plus a booster box

Yeah, maybe not the best investment

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Magic cards bring me a ton of joy so that definitely sounds worth it to me.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Kiln Fiend my beloved

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

i disagree with a lot of choices made in the linked decklists, but glad that you're having fun :)

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