this post was submitted on 01 Mar 2024
467 points (99.0% liked)

politics

19135 readers
2321 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

About 125,000 notices will be sent to high-income earners, including 25,000 people with income more than $1 million, the tax agency said

This is who the Republican party's complaints about the IRS are intended to protect.

all 43 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 78 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The IRS came after me over the taxes for a couple of grand on a repossessed car that I never got the paperwork on. Apparently I should have just made a few million and not filed at all rather than losing everything I had.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

The issue is these people can afford accountants and other people to draw out and hinder the process. Poor people just have to pay or be held accountable. That's why low IRS funding hurts poor people and high funding hurts rich people. If they've got the money, they can go after the wealthy and, in turn, get even more money from them than they spent to get it.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 8 months ago (1 children)

they’re just waiting for their puppet to come back and dismantle the IRS.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sooo... Not only has it not trickled down but, they haven't even paid their fair share, huh? Who woulda' thought?!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Oh come on buddy... It hasn't trickled down because they haven't paid their fair share yet! Doubtless the cheque is in the mail and it just got lost for a few years or something; it'll all start trickling down in no time don't you worry!!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Obvious the rich didn't pay tax at all, evade the most time possible to paid it or use tricks to pay the most less posible, it's a classic, the middle and low class are the ones which pay the majority of tax and in time, it's the way capitalism work.

The funny thing it's how some people are proud of paying tax while the rich didn't pay a fuck LMAO.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

The Republicans have long had a strategy of requiring the IRS to heavily audit use of the earned income tax credit for the poor, while starving it for resources, so that it couldn't audit the richest.

The Inflation Reduction Act the Democrats passed a couple years back gave the IRS money to actually go after the wealthy, which is what we're seeing here.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Inflation Reduction Act the Democrats passed a couple years back gave the IRS money to actually go after the wealthy, which is what we’re seeing here.

And of course the goddamn scum of the earth propagandists screamed "the Democrats are funding the IRS to COME AFTER YOU!!" And we now have a talking point about how the IRS needs to be defunded to "protect the little guy." It's so disgusting... I hate these people so much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

Every story we've seen on the news in the last 50 years about an "overzealous IRS harrassing the little guy" has been complete bullshit propped up by conservatives and their capitalist buddies.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I believe this it's more about the 1% VS the 99% instead of the left vs the right.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Republicans openly favor the 1%, which is a big difference between the parties

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but both are owned by the 1%

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Democrats very much less so; a big chunk of their coalition is the labor unions who are outside that demographic.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago

That's called GOOD BUSINESS! The TRUE Leeches are the SINGLE MOTHERS using FOOD STAMPS to feed their KIDS!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Haven't filed tax return? So they don't want refunds? I'm confused.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If you're getting a refund, it's means you've been over paying and giving Uncle Sam an interest free loan.

I haven't gotten a (federal) refund in years. Every year I pay at tax time, so that money is sitting in my savings account for the year gaining interest rather sitting in the governments account gaining interest. We aren't talking a ton of money, but it's the type of game I can't help but play if it's available.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (2 children)

For the record, if your taxes are higher than a certain number you have to pay it every quarter, otherwise you will owe interest on it at the end of the year. So what EatATaco said is mostly true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Sure, I should have made that clear that if you arent close, you'll pay a penalty.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Actual CPA here, you'll owe an underpayment of estimated tax penalty if you don't pay in at least the lesser of 90% of current year/100% of prior year (110% if AGI >$150K) tax. The penalty is based on the Federal short term rate and prorated based on amount underpaid and time outstanding (i.e. Q1 is overdue for the whole year but only 1/4 of the underpayment, Q4 is the whole amount but only late by one quarter). When all is said and done, it usually works out to like 2% and we have plenty of clients that would rather hold the cash and pay the penalty because it's generally cheaper than borrowing, or they figure they can get a greater rate of return by interesting it (depending on their situation/perspective).

If you miss April 15th it goes to credit card rates though (failure to pay penalty, which is very different from underpayment of estimated tax). Don't do that. Remember: an extension is for time to file, not time to pay.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The super-rich don't get much of their income from wages, where there is withholding of a bit more than you're likely to owe if the wages are your only income. They get it from interest, dividends, and running a business. There is usually not withholding for those, so they're supposed to make quarterly payments. But the Republicans cut IRS funding years ago, so it didn't have the resources to go after them if they just stopped paying. So a lot did just that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

People living anywhere less than 10 million aren't generally living off of dividends though either. Switching to that too soon is a common mistake many of the "merely rich" make.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Sure, but they're talking about people with income of more than 1 million. If they're living off interest and dividends, they've probably got something in the realm of $30-75 million in assets.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago