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Gemini on Android can't ID songs, and it's frustrating | TechCrunch (techcrunch.com)

submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The author says that once you install Gemini (pro), when you ask "what song is this", you get a reply like "use apple's Shazam".

They say Google assistant music recognition was working so well and super accurate.

Although I was never able to have it work. When I ask "what song is this" I can only get one of this two results:

Sorry, I didn't understand (90% of cases)
Search "what song is this" on Google

My use cases are:

In car listening to radio. I never have it work.
Know which song is playing right now on the device when I'm using headphones. It never worked but it should be trivial, you already have all the metadata already. My iPod touch could do this super reliably and 100% offline TWENTY YEARS ago. It was so useful.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I was surprised to find Gemini had replaced assistant. It couldn't even add items to the shopping list. Thankfully one is able to revert the change.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Gemini can't do a damn thing. It's completely useless as a digital assistant. It can't even play music on YouTube Music. Who thought it would be a good idea to replace the Google Assistant with this?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

So you can't ID songs either?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Yeah but I'm not going around boasting that I can.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rocketsauce83.musicsearch

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

Don't need to install a dedicated third party app for that, the Google app already exposes a widget for sound search

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

I'm always using assistant to play music in the car or on home speakers. Gemini isn't able to do this. I also discovered I can't use the Gemini app without allowing it to replace the assistant.

I will say I have had similar problems getting assistant to identify songs. It used to work pretty seamlessly.

Against all privacy recommendations I do allow my phone to id music at all times. Nice thing is I have a shortcut to history, it doesn't always work, bit does most of the time.

[+] [email protected] -43 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

wow - surely not being able to recognize songs totally defeats the purpose of an assistant

Shazam solved music recognition 20y ago, just stop whining and use a tool that has this feature.

That's like complaining my coffee maker doesn't make tea.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Google Assistant could do it.

So it’s more like complaining that your coffee maker stopped making the water hot.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Pixels just do it automatically on the lock screen, no need for assistant, or even going online, it works just on the phone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

It's pretty good but it works with a limited database stored on your phone.

With Google Assistant's music recognition you get to access a larger database stored on their servers.

[+] [email protected] -11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

and GA is still available, just use it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

For now.

Google fully intends to replace GA with Gemini.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah, and it's almost like that is still an ongoing thing hence it's quite understandable that Gemini is severly unfinished and broken for now.

[+] [email protected] -6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

yes... as soon as it has feature parity with assistant, which will take a while

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes Google is well known for achieving feature parity with its own competing apps before axing them after all.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago (3 children)

if that was the case they would have just embedded gemini into the assistant app and raised the middle finger to all their user base

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There's a big bonus and promotion for the Gemini's product manager. That means GA is on the death row.

They're already removing features from GA, so "reaching parity" is faster

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago

yeah, that's shitty

not knowing any better, I'd guess these "improvements" are effects of some of those layoffs

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

They ran Gmail and Inbox concurrently before axing one and not reaching feature parity.

They ran Google Music and YouTube music concurrently before axing one and not reaching feature parity.

Etc.

So why would that be the case?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Don't remind me inbox is gone! I want that sweet sweet mail organization back in my life.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

that only implies they're axing gemini, which would solve the "problem" posted above

in other words, the post complains about something that hasn't happened yet

just keep using google assistant

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

They mean YouTube music and Google play music concurrently and we still don't have feature parity for Google play music features on YouTube music.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Umm.. they're doing this. I literally was prompted the other day to test out Gemini as my assistant app. Granted this was my fuckup by opting in, but I thought it'd at least have the basics.. Now I can't set reminders, or look up my calendar info with my voice like I used to. Not being able to identify songs is just as equally ridiculous. It barely searches.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

yes, we know it's limited - but can't you go back to assistant? I have the option

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Google assistant is already almost useless (at least in my language, I get almost always a "sorry, I didn't understand" answer, but your mileage may vary), a newer version that can't interact with anything seems pointless.

"Send Whatsapp to..." - "I can't interact with Whatsapp"

"Turn off the lights" - "I don't have access to this"

"Identify this song" - "use our competitor's app"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (1 children)

GA was amazing years ago, it’s gotten consistently worse over time to the point I’ve stopped using it in my home for anything other than asking today’s weather when I wake up.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Selfhosting an assistant will probably work better and be much for privacy friendly