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"Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" [Y/N]

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[–] 142 points 2 years ago (154 children)

One side is working to dismantle democracy. The other side is not. If you don't vote blue you are enabling Republicans to enact Project 2025. You would enable Republicans to take away rights from LGBT people in America. You would enable abortion bans and enable even more of the genocide in Gaza. You would enable Republicans to do all the types of stuff listed in the meme, and they will try.

I am convinced some of the far left that won't vote for Biden because of the war in Gaza are being influenced by Republicans. I wouldn't be surprised if some of those people are Republicans trying to get people not to vote for Biden. It may not be an ideal situation, but if you don't vote for Biden because you think he is handling the war in Gaza horribly, you are doing exactly what the Republicans want you to do. Maybe someday we'll be able to vote for someone better than him. But for now, you have to understand the reality of our two party system, and deal with it. At the very least, don't do what the Republicans would want you to do: staying home rather than going out and voting for Biden

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    [–] 91 points 2 years ago (37 children)

    Man I just want to vote for a better candidate not strategically vote so the worst one doesn't get elected. Why tf isn't Trump in jail yet

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    [–] 56 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Trump will for sure encourage a true genocode of palestine. remember the kurds he abandoned to Syria/Putin? remember the muslim ban?

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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Don't forget getting rid of Medicare, raising taxes on people making under $90,000 a year, dismantling the IRS, and just full on fascism.

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    [–] 45 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    "Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" Yes

    Maybe I'm just getting old, but I have no problem seeing the vast difference between the two choices we're going to be given in November.

    No matter how much the children in the room piss and moan, there are realistically only two choices - 3rd party candidates only exist to spoil it for whomever they're ideologically closer to of the two "real" candidates. Furthermore, Biden has turned out better than I expected - and I'm a Bernie Sanders kinda guy!

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    [–] 35 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    "Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?"

    Primary? No. General? If he makes it.

    The current electoral phase is the primary, which is what those voting 'Uncommitted' are involved in. You have to understand this the first, last, and only phase in the presidential election cycle where voters have ANY say, even the possibility of it, on influencing executive policy for their party.

    Anyone thinking criticism of Biden in a primary is the same as supporting Trump in the general is delusional and demonstrably doesn't understand the electoral process for president.

    Are people like OP really concerned about Dean Philips or Marianne Williamson becoming the democratic party candidate? Because that is the phase we are in: internal party primary elections. People are trying to shape the Democratic Party platform through a democratic process and there is all this blowback that amounts only to "B-but Trump!"

    That perspective relies on a misunderstanding, willful or not, of American Presidential election cycles.

    Though I still am hedging my bets that at least one of the general election candidates keels over in the next 6 months.

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    [–] 34 points 2 years ago*

    Aaron Bushnell was a moron. He should have waited to self-immolate after the election, that way he could still vote for Biden.

    Obvious /s.

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  • [–] 33 points 2 years ago* (10 children)

    Y

    Don't worry, a bunch of fucking idiots think not voting is the solution, turning what could just be 4 more years of "definitely not good" into a toss up with "holy fucking shit I didn't know it could be this bad".

    The vapid motherfuckers doing everything based on principles without taking reality into account is how the left always seems to get so little done.

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Please start your comments with the following question answered at the top

    Nice try, FBI

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    [–] 29 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    Y

    given all Biden is doing for women with abortion and ivf, he’s getting kids breakfast and lunch money, he’s helping reduce college loan disasters, Medicare is going after pharmas that price gouge, he’s the first president ever to join union members on the picket line, I could go on and on.

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  • [+] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (26 children)
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    [–] 28 points 2 years ago

    Y

    Fuck Biden, and fuck the DNC, may they rot in hell, but Trump would be worse for people I love and care for.

    My only hope is that the GOP implodes due to infighting, and the DNC splits into a leftist and establishment group of parties, so that we can choose between a leftist and a liberal, not a liberal and a fascist.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    "Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" Yes

    For anybody saying no, I would like to know what radical action we were all supposed to have taken in 2021 to the present that would have fixed America, or how revolution will be easier under a Trump presidency, or what specific plan the vast majority of leftists and progressives wants to enact

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    To clarify: fuck Trump 75%, and fuck Biden 25%. Does that work for everyone?

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    [–] 21 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Weird how that makes it seem like the people trying to make things better are the ones responsible for making things worse. It's almost like the whole system was set up to give us two horrible choices and make us think the lesser evil is actually good. That way we won't try to really fix anything ourselves and just get angry at the people who do for "wasting their votes". No hate to anyone who thinks this way just sharing another perspective.

    I'd rather have Biden than Trump. But I'd rather have Dr. Cornell West or Claudia de la Cruz more than either of them by a lot. Hell I'm probably going to vote for one of them. I live in Maryland, a blue state that'll go to Biden anyway. If anybody has a problem with that, I don't care 🤷

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    [–] 20 points 2 years ago

    I'm going to vote so hard, that'll teach 'em

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  • [–] 18 points 2 years ago

    Y

    I don't begrudge the people who don't want to vote for him. For those who see their vote as support and complicity, I understand the reluctance. If Biden suddenly said fuck gay and trans people tomorrow, I would not be a happy camper. I would not be happy voting for a politician who hates gay people and deny them their rights.

    But I would still do it. And I hope everyone who doesn't want to vote for him still comes around in November to reluctantly do so.

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  • [–] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I am not a man of any faith, but prayers for a timely stroke have crossed my mind.

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    [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Y

    And let’s not forget the right-wing trolls that shill the propaganda that feed the leftists rhetoric.

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