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"Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" [Y/N]
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"Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?" Yes
For anybody saying no, I would like to know what radical action we were all supposed to have taken in 2021 to the present that would have fixed America, or how revolution will be easier under a Trump presidency, or what specific plan the vast majority of leftists and progressives wants to enact
Tell the DNC to pick somebody else
A lot of people do, but they won't. That's not really what the original commenter was asking though.
People that participate in our democracy not knowing the basics of how it works is getting exhausting. The DNC doesn't "pick" canidates: voters do. The DNC absolutely throws its support behind preferred candidates, but voters still make the final decision.
"Pick someone else" also smacks of "I want someone else to do the hard work and find a viable alternative candidate for me, because I can't be bothered to put actual effort in to the political process." Nobody is stopping you from campaigning for your preferred presidential candidate in the primary -- or even running yourself if you're eligible.
Lot of misinformation in your blurb. The DNC can 100% pick anybody they want to regardless of votes.
But okay, trust the private corp telling you to vote for fascism instead of the candidates promising you healthcare and public utilities.
Exactly. The DNC is responsible for the last trump presidency, they will be responsible for the next one.
Just to be clear: These issues largely are relevant for a LOT of Western Nations, so Here we go:
If you can't afford things, paying your mortgage with a Credit Card is a bad choice - it will get way worse, way faster. Printing more money with Government Bonds is absolutely skyrocketing inflation, and trying to print more money to keep this thing going is going to get extremely bad, extremely quickly and it's already bad - like really bad. It's time to start pulling in the belt and looking to cut.
In Ideal - the money supply over the next 10-20 years needs to drop by around 50% if not 75%. That would induce negative inflation: MAKING THINGS AFFORDABLE FOR AVERAGE PEOPLE WITHOUT HAVING TO FIGHT WITH INCREASING MINIMUM WAGE. And ya - the Neoliberals and NeoCons will fight you tooth and nail. And hell, the NeoMarxists will probably complain because you are making their job of convincing people "Capitalism = evil, Socialism = Good" really god damn hard. And I say: If you piss certified mainstream economists off? You might be on track for something good.
The Amount of Government Beurocracy growth there has been in the last couple of decades? Simplify the laws, Simplify the codes, make it easier to file taxes for the average person. This will reduce the cost of operating these agencies - and in some cases? Reduce it by A BLOODY TONNE. It will also reduce lawsuits relating to these issues, which again: Saves money.
Beyond this (this is america specific just to be clear): Start closing down foreign military bases. If you have 5 bases in a country, cut it down to 4, or even 3. Use the savings to pay your service members you have better, improve recruitment programs, and cut some of the spending. Be selective in where you do this - but signal to the world that you need to be efficient. Nations need to invest in their own defence.
In the US: The issue is largely Illegal Immigration. In Canada: It's Legal Immigration rubber stamped by a Government that seems hellbent on destroying this nation for the sake of virtue signalling. And people are fed up with it.
Beyond this: If an immigrant breaks the law? expel them from the country, give them a 5 year ban from entering, and call it a day. For Permanent residents - have a warning system: Minor infraction? Warning, Warning, Expel. For Criminal activity - revoke the permanent residency and boot em out immediately. Don't spend money on imprisoning them: Just kick them out of the nation.
I'm sorry but: Basically every developed nation has this. Democrats need to get overthemselves and implement it. Otherwise, what it looks like - true or not - is that Democrats in certain area's want Illegal Immigrants to be able to vote.
You know who managed to do about half of this? Trump. Want to know why there is a rather large section of people who are going to vote for him? Because of this.
You know who the mainstream media hates? Trump. You know who the mainstream media has vilified for like 8 years straight at this point? Trump.
Run someone, run a platform with these points being true and you will win the election. And probably by a bloody landslide.
I'd like to ask how immigration is a problem to you? Immigration means a larger workforce and more value in the economy. If immigrants are "taking jobs" and making people unemployed as many people like to say, that isn't a problem with immigration, that's a problem with the way our economy has always been set up. Being out of a job and unemployed shouldn't destroy your life, take away your healthcare and education, etc., and in civilized countries they don't have nearly as much of an issue with that. So is it something else? Is it being against cultural diversity?
Undocumented immigrants also can't vote in state or federal elections. VERY FEW municipalities allow undocumented immigrant voting, so few in fact (17 to be exact, if you include ones that only allow them to vote in school board elections, like SF, Oakland, and Chicago) that it's absolutely a non-issue.
BTW many EU countries allow non-EU citizens to vote (Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, Slovenia, Lithuania).
I'm also curious as to which "half" that Trump accomplished that you're referring to. Spending was extremely high under Trump. He was KNOWN for making national debt skyrocket, increasing government spending a ton in order to tax the rich less, fucking up foreign relations including trading which set up a terrible future for prices. And all of this without even facing a pandemic. The economy complex and the answer to its problems isn't just "stop printing money lol".
Trump also, completely contrary to what he campaigned on, does all he can to increase illegal immigration. He did absolutely nothing to stop or reduce it, he just used it as something to convince people to vote for him. It's been decreasing since Obama and Trump didn't contribute at all. Meanwhile, Trump has been actively working against introducing legislation on immigration because he doesn't want Biden to get good press, he has influenced Republicans directly to kill multiple bills that would contribute to controlling immigration.
That only leaves voting, which Trump heavily worked against... He definitely did really want to make more states ID voters, but not because of some goal to make voting more fair or streamlined – he actually put much of his effort making sure voting WASN'T fair or easy, and tried making voting much more of a pain in the ass, especially for poorer and marginalized people, to lower voter turnout – it was to encroach on peoples' right to vote by making it have an extremely high personal cost. Naturally people who are far more well off and have a lot of time, people who are privileged, which are generally people who vote Republican, will be the ones who can afford to put the time and effort and money in.
That's true, immigration is also good in terms of increasing national wealth. The only reason to tighten borders further is because of fear of the other, an irrational fear at that
I'm not going to argue with you too hard because you clearly are a big Trump fan (Not only do Trump's policies align with yours more than Biden, but you seem to have a cult of personality thing going)
But I will agree with you that it would be great if we spent less money on our biggest expense, war. Cut all funding to Israel, make huge cuts to border patrol, cut our department of defense down to a fraction of what it currently is, demilitarize the police...
We can keep going, too. End meat subsidies. End grain subsidies....
I don't know if mainstream media hates Donald Trump, Fox News sure loved him. And the only powerful political figure I can think of who got fewer CNN Town Halls than Donald Trump is Jeffrey Epstein, who I also hear mainstream media hates.