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Former top officials from Donald Trump’s administration are warning he is likely to use a second term to overhaul the nation’s spy agencies in a way that could lead to an unprecedented level of politicization of intelligence.

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 9 months ago (1 children)

On the other hand, the prospect of a second Trump presidency has the unintelligence community delighted.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

They're included in the community mentioned above due to recent performance.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe they could do something

[–] [email protected] 44 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Nah, they only do something when there's a prospect of a socialist democracy rejecting American corporate interests... because the military industrial complex and entire intelligence apparatus is a tool of capitalism.

Corporations aka "the economy" = "national security"

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Man, given what the intelligence agencies are known for, I don't exactly want them interfering in US elections.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Maybe just this once, as a treat

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

It starts as just a treat, then dessert, then it's the main course, and before you know it, it's three meals a day of spookocracy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago

This is the most hilarious comment I've read in a while.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Trump, who already tried to revamp intelligence agencies during his first term, is likely to re-up those plans — and push even harder to replace people perceived as hostile to his political agenda with inexperienced loyalists, according to interviews with more than a dozen people who worked in his administration.

This is why fascism always fails despite all its posturing about being "strong". People in top positions are chosen for loyalty to the leader first and basic competence second. Then those people are turned against each other to make sure they never accumulate enough power under themselves to directly challenge the leader. This is exactly what happened to Nazi intelligence, and British intelligence ran circles around them.

It never works in the long run, but they can take down everything around them in the short to medium run.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

Dan Carlin did a wonderful show about why the German army of WWI was much better than the Wehrmacht. And his argument can be summarized as “Do you really think Falkenhayn or Ludendorff would have tolerated Goering for 5 minutes before firing him on the spot?”

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Cheeto Benito just outs intelligence assets on a whim, him being in charge makes us less safe in many ways. He is proof we are an unreliable ally.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)

America has been rendered effectively schizophrenic.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

yeah...the last 50 years wasn't the proof, no....Hey remember what happened to allies like Iraq and Afghanistan?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

To everyone suggest he gets JFKd...

I bet you it's on the table. And the intelligence communities are weighing on how much of a martyr it'll make him/if it'll spark a civil war.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Just keep feeding him burgers until he chokes. No one would be the wiser.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Andrew Lloyd Webber should team up with Mike Judge to write the musical, Idiocracy Superstar.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Where are the assassin-spies then? If they're so nervous... do something about it? We all know you can. NSA, if you're listening...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

where are all the assassins…

History suggests they’re probably all Republican.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Maybe they should share some intelligence

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Asking honestly: do you think doing so would change anything?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ok, then do something about it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The way I see it, if the Americans end up picking a president who ranked among the bottom 5 presidents of all times, it's their own fault for doing so and they should enjoy the consequences of that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The issue is, that the rest of the World will also "enjoy" the consequences of that, because you can't just ignore 300 Million people...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's a fair point but I think the world is getting better at and more prepared to do so. The rest of the world can easily ignore 300mil people. We do it with many others. It's the fact that it's the US that makes it harder to ignore. IMO Trump was the trigger that inspired countries ans allies to cut or limit dependencies on single countries like the US, China and Russia.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Fairly certain the not-so-intelligent community is just cheering him on, though.

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