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[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The most fucked up part about this is that many countries – the US included – cut funding for UNRWA after this bullshit, and apparently even the UNRWA itself just took the accusations at face value and fired some of the accused

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

And now reports of children starving to death are happening.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I mean, even if it did have the 12 accused employees that were members of Hamas, I don’t see how that is a reason to defund the agency. UNRWA has thousands of employees. It sounds like an isolated thing?

I can guarantee you that there are more than 12 actual Nazis and members of the KKK in US police forces and its military, but it’s not like the whole organization gets defunded.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Hamas has infiltrated US intelligence, time to bomb Langley

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago

The US knew it was BS all along. Just like the 40 dead babies claim. Now comes the quiet "maybe we were too hasty" backtrack now that the damage has been done and the kids are dying at appropriate numbers for the ghouls in the whitehouse and their clients in the Knesset

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Low confidence generally means questionable or implausible information was used, the information is too fragmented or poorly corroborated to make solid analytic inferences, or significant concerns or problems with sources existed.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the intelligence report, released last week, assessed with “low confidence” that a handful of staff had participated in the attack, indicating that it considered the accusations to be credible though it could not independently confirm their veracity.

The Wall Street Journal lying about how analysts rate intelligence to help Israeli propaganda? Why I never!

For those having trouble putting 2 and 2 together, this means our intelligence analysts are calling bullshit on Israel's claims.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Relevant section from the WSJ article for anyone interested:

In the new report, which was completed last week, the U.S.’s National Intelligence Council, a group of veteran intelligence analysts, said it assessed with “low confidence” that a handful of Unrwa staffers participated in the Oct. 7 attack, those familiar with the findings said.

A low-confidence assessment indicates that the U.S. intelligence community believes the claims are plausible but cannot make a stronger assertion because it doesn’t have its own independent confirmation. The U.S. concluded the claims are “credible,” a U.S. official said.

U.S. officials said that American spy agencies haven’t traditionally focused on gathering intelligence on Gaza, and that Israel hadn’t shared the raw intelligence behind its assessments with the U.S., limiting their ability to reach clearer conclusions.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago

And that's where the article is lying. "Low Confidence" is the rating that's essentially the trash bin. If they believed the claims were plausible they'd at least rate it moderate.

The official that says it's credible is Jake Sullivan, he said it publicly right after Israel made their claims.

I cannot overstate how trash the WSJ is on international politics. It's heavily biased at the least.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Earlier this year, Israel accused 12 employees of the United Nations Reliefs and Works Agency (UNRWA) of participating in the 7 October attacks alongside Hamas.

The bombshell accusation led several countries, including the US, to cut off funding for the agency, which was a crucial vehicle for getting aid to Gaza in what has widely been described as a humanitarian crisis.

According to the Wall Street Journal, the intelligence report, released last week, declared it had “low confidence” in the basic claim that a handful of staff had participated in the attack, indicating that it considered the accusations to be credible though it could not independently confirm their veracity.

The Journal said the report mentioned that although the UNRWA does coordinate with Hamas in order to deliver aid and operate in the region, there was a lack of evidence to suggest it partnered with the group.

Meanwhile, a separate UN report released on Monday by a group of UN experts expressed alarm over “credible allegations” of Palestinian women and girls being subjected to “multiple forms of sexual assault … by male Israeli army officers”.

The allegations include rape and detention of Palestinian women in cages, in addition to “photos of female detainees in degrading circumstances … reportedly taken by the Israeli army and uploaded online”.


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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Interesting wording to say "israel lied and provided no evidence for their claims".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, but CIA is Hamas

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"Casts doubt" in the title. Credible in the report from the CIA.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"credible reports" (but low confidence) of some employees of UNRWA participating in the attack. No evidence at all that UNRWA had partnered with Hamas or supported the attacks.

What that means is "somebody said that some people that work for UNRWA also participated in the attacks but we have found no proof either way."

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

They're credible because the CIA has no evidence to refute it and Israeli's equivalents didn't share the raw intelligence with them. Turns out spying on Hamas isn't something the US does a lot of. If they had evidence to refute it they'd call the reports conflicting or something similar.