If it is running over Wi-Fi it isn't really security, it is a toy. At the very best a visual deterrent for opportunistic people.
this post was submitted on 14 Feb 2024
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So is all the locks on your door...
You can have a metal door with 3 deadbolts and a cast iron storm door also padlocked.
Still takes a small rock to break a window.
"So are all"
And yes I agree, if people want to get in they are going to get in but a lot of people buying these cameras some how think they are suddenly immune to crime.
Devils advocate: A masked figure who walked to my property and stole my stuff doesn’t solve who did it. If someone doesn’t want to get caught, there are always ways to prevent it.
Note: I don’t think people think they’re immune but they may not realize wifi can be jammed. Wired is better than wireless but sometimes wireless is the only way or only way to provide a camera to a certain spot that wouldn’t be covered otherwise. And then there’s renting where wired mods to the home/property may not be permitted. There are some use cases that make sense.
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At the very best a visual deterrent for opportunistic people.
That's what all security is though.
No security system is going to prevent someone from just kicking in your door and stealing your shit in 2 minutes, then leaving.
But it's great for insurance purposes and tracking down people after they leave. And if your door or window is opened during the middle of the night, an alarm system is going to be fantastic for alerting you to someone in your house.
WiFi security systems perform their function of deterrence, monitoring, and insurance claims just fine.
Wow, I haven’t seen a more head-ass take since Linus last opened his mouth..
So setting everything up wired with PoE was a pain, but worth it.
This, but don't forget to plug the router to a UPS!
A pain and obviously I wish to never have a use for the recordings….
They can't do that, it's illegal!
Maybe not in Minnesota??
I guess if you're going to break the law anyway what's one more lawbreak. But I thought the FCC actively tracked down people using illegal frequency devices?
thought the FCC actively tracked down people using illegal frequency devices?
It depends on the frequency being deployed. Shit operating in the ~2/~5 ghz spectrum doesn't travel far at all, so unless an FCC agent is directly nearby when they're doing this, it's not going to be detected by them.
However, if you're illegally blasting in the <1k mhz spectrum, that does travel far and more importantly it interferes with common bands used by public safety, air traffic controllers, DoD, etc (ATC is around 100mhz, public safety typically around 800mhz, DoD around 300mhz (although this varies)). That interference will definitely start being noticed and it's a matter of time before you're caught.
I'm pretty sure those jammers (they saturate wifi band with trafic) are used only for burglary time, say 10-15 minutes, and very local, so the neighbour million$ mansion is far enough that they are not affected. How come FCC detect this?
The FCC knows where my microwave is?
You bet they do. They have trackers in every microwave sold. That's how they track Taylor Swift to influence the Russians. -s
"Minnesota"? Everyone, c'mon
Don't many of the wifi cameras include local recording to SD cards?
Sure, but I wager many folks go with the easiest route and just rely on cloud storage or possibly local central storage.
Regardless, hardwire is best for any "critical" system to avoid shit like this. I've been telling my family for years that once common criminals adapted to the times, people with wireless everything smart homes were going to be in for a world of hurt. My reason being that the vast majority of IoT type crap are notoriously riddled with easily exploitable vulnerabilities. WiFi jamming isn't anything new or even complex, but it's just the tip of the iceberg of what's to come for low tier criminals, IMO. We truly are entering the early stages of the cyberpunk era, but without all the cool cyberware implants (yet).
They may not care about being filmed, so much as being able to call the cops while they're in the middle of robbing you.
The article stated that they are watching the homes and going in when no one is home in order to avoid any confrontation.
Exactly. They are trying to avoid confrontation, so they don't want people seeing someone on their security camera and calling the cops.
If you get an alert that there's motion in your living room, you may check and would call the cops if you see something. If you get an alert that your camera is disconnected you quietly curse your ISP and continue about your day.