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You can see how each member voted here: https://www.ourcommons.ca/Members/en/votes/44/1/634

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Respect to all the Bloc MPs who voted yea. Those guys make out like bandits under the current system.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I can appreciate someone voting for their ideals rather than for their interests.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This wasnt a motion to change the base system, only some slight adjustments to improve access.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Right, I remember now someone shared that a few days ago. Well, I suppose that's less impressive then. And way less impressive on the part of the HoC to not pass something basic like improved voting access.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

I don't think that is a accurate portrayal of the motion.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-electoral-reform-1.7101929

The House of Commons will vote next week on Motion 86. Sponsored by NDP MP Lisa Marie Barron, the motion calls on the federal government to establish a citizens assembly to "determine if electoral reform is recommended for Canada, and, if so, recommend specific measures that would foster a healthier democracy

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Like, technically, but clearly the CPC wanted it dead. The LPC was also rather divided but mostly supported it.

My guy voted "Yea" though, so they're cool.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm oddly proud of BC, way to get a majority there guys.

But major kudos to Quebec, your MP's are actually listening (here), but also NWT, Nova Scotia, Nunavut, PWI, and the Yukon.

As is tradition though, the prairies let us down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We love dynasties out here on the prairies, no matter how little it relates to reality.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

My condolences, friend.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago

Same. Was legit surprised lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The CPC are probably convinced the only way they can achieve a majority under Poilievre is if they get a false majority through a lucky roll of FPTP. In 2015 they were all upset that the LPC got a majority with only 39% of votes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

FPTP has generally benefitted the LPC. I remember an analysis I read about the time they were "promising" election reform that said in close races, over 60% of the time the Liberals ended up with the election. Wish I could still find it, my google-fu is failing me tonight.

Besides, this bill had nothing to do with that. It wasn't going to fix anything even if it had passed.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (1 children)

At least the political will is growing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

Yeah I really hope that we gain traction for this within our lifetimes because I think it will be the first step in helping our democracy reflect the will of the people

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Can someone explain how the PM has both a yea and nay vote? I'm genuinely confused.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Seems wrong that the elected people get to decide if we change how they get elected. Once they have their seat they can fight to keep it against electoral change.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If anyone was wondering about the Conservatives:

Ben Lobb (Huron-Bruce), John Nater (Perth-Wellington), Alex Ruff (Bruce-Grey-Owen Sound)

Bernard Généreux (Montmagny—L'Islet—Kamouraska—Rivière-du-Loup) also had his vote marked updated, so maybe he flip-flopped.

This doc has the worst format, BTW.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago

This bill was not going to achieve anything anyway. It wasn't addressing FPTP in any way.