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Netanyahu meets Argentina’s new leader Milei, ‘a great friend’ of Israel (www.timesofisrael.com)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

A crazy populist that does America's bidding winning an election? And then taking every single stance that America has?

No CIA foreign interference here boys, pack those tinfoil hats up

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

You don't even need a tinfoil hat lol. The CIA has declassified a shitton of documents admitting to have been involved in election interference, coups, and helping dictators in South America before. Why would anyone be outraged at the thought that this might be just yet another American puppet in South America.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Great, anything to help Israel against Hamas terrorists and the leftists supporters of said terrorists.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s about his only flaw, still glad we voted him

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Isn't he also really homophobic? And has a shitton other "political stances" that are very problematic?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No he’s not homophobic, he believes consenting adults should do whatever the fuck they want in bed. I think he’s our first president to explicitly say that with no fear of upseting “too conservative” voters.

And you may not like his political stances or not believe his plan to solve argentina’s problems would work, we do, that’s why we voted him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except getting an abortion. He's trying to criminalize that. That apparently no longer falls under the "do whatever the fuck you want" ideology you parade here.

https://www.laprensalatina.com/mileis-party-presents-draft-bill-to-repeal-argentina-abortion-law/

The bill, presented on Monday, calls for the repeal of the Voluntary Interruption of Pregnancy Law and for abortion to be criminalized for both the woman and those who participate in the procedure.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It’s do whatever you want unless you harm someone else, and he believes killing a mf is “harming someone else”. Don’t worry, we knew that from even before he was a candidate and is what we voted for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So you're okay with banning abortion?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You mean me or my country? I think the majority of us is ok with banning it, we’ll see once/if a referendum happens.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That’s quite sad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He’s doing what he said in his campaign, that’s the opposite of sad if you ask me.

And again: he can’t ban it without asking the people first(indirectly through legistators or directly through a referendum), he won’t ban it against our will.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You keep beating around the bush. Just tell me, in your view, do you think that banning abortion is something positive for your country? You don't need to paint it all with this "democracy" brush. Hitler was also democratically elected. Just because something is democratically elected doesn't mean it's good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

My opinion on banning abortion in my country? Not now, they should focus on the economy and redirecting funds to social welfare first. 2/3 children not having a meal everyday is just of higher priority.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You can't have an opinion on it right now? Or you think it's not something positive for your country right now? What about in the future? Do you think it's a good idea to outright ban abortion in the future then?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have an opinion and it is: Not now, solve the whole “2/3 of children don’t eat while the goverment is paying millionaires to make movies” problem first, then we can discuss abortion.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Well, sucks to be you, because Milei seems to want to do it now, and won't call a referendum on it.

I wonder how long it will take for the leopards to start eating people's faces. (Well, they kinda did with women, but who cares about women having access to abortion, right?)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not really, that bill was made by the legislator Rocío Bonacci(a woman? how can that be!) without asking Milei, and there’s like 0.01% chance its gets approved so there’s no need to worry.

They won’t, these leopards only eat rats. And they’re not messing with women, once again: we (men and women) voted for this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

A woman trying to ban abortion access to all other women doesn't justify shit.

Don't like abortions? Don't have one.

"We voted for it" doesn't justify shit either. The germans voted for the nazis too. Democratically. Did that justify anything? What kind of take is that?

The leopards eat faces. As we have seen many times before. Good luck to you and your people, you'll need it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Don't like abortions? Don't have one.

You’re saying this as someone who likes abortion, I’ll remind you that anti-abortion people don’t just “not like it” but actually believe it’s equivalent to murdering a person. You would’t say “don’t like theft? Just don’t steal!” to push a bill to decriminalize theft, would you?

Our culture doesn’t appreciates abortion the same way yours do, that’s ok and we’ll not push your country to ban abortion.

And I may be wrong, argentina may be more pro-abortion than I think, we’ll see once/if a referendum happens.

Good luck to you and your people, you'll need it.

Thank you! uwu

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

He apparently respects any type of consensual sex, hyperbolically including sex with an elephant. I do not know how to feel about the fact that he's okay with zoophilia (which is rape). It's also very dehumanizing to compare people's sexual orientations to having sex with animals.

"¿Qué me importa a mí cuál es tu elección sexual? Suponete que vos querés estar con un elefante, si tenés el consentimiento del elefante problema tuyo y del elefante"

In reference to public funding for gender-affirming care and public education, he said: "I have no problem, but don't impose it on me by the state. Don't steal money from people to impose someone else's ideas on them. That is violent."

On the topic of transgender rights, Milei has stated that he "does not care" about gender identification "as long as you do not make me pay the bill", and compared it to identifying as a cougar.

Again, it's a very dehumanizing position towards trans people.

He also doesn't seem to be an LGBT ally even though people classify him as "socially progressive" (lol). He's at most tolerant of our existence, but he doesn't seem to be the guy that would do anything to protect the LGBT community if it ever came to protecting them. And the fact that he's against state funded gender affirming care, which is life saving to trans people, is quite sad to me. But whatever, you guys do you. I'm not so sure turbocapitalism on steroids will save you. I personally dislike this guy's half assed positions and think he will turn on you the moment he "needs to respect the decision of the people".

Isn't he also trying to push an abortion ban right now?

https://www.laprensalatina.com/mileis-party-presents-draft-bill-to-repeal-argentina-abortion-law/

The bill, presented on Monday, calls for the repeal of the Voluntary Interruption of Pregnancy Law and for abortion to be criminalized for both the woman and those who participate in the procedure.

Sucks to be a woman down there I guess. But whatever, they'll be martyred for "the good of the economy" and Milei's "plan to save Argentina".

Also good for you that you voted for him? You don't have to be so defensive, I never attacked your "beliefs"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He apparently respects any type of consensual sex, hyperbolically including sex with an elephant. I do not know how to feel about the fact that he's okay with zoophilia (which is rape). It's also very dehumanizing to compare people's sexual orientations to having sex with animals.

He’s not ok with zoophilia, you literally just said that’s an hyperbole, a mere reductio ad absurdum to say “as long as all parties consent, do whatever” this example talks about a consenting elephant, such creature does not exist in the real world and was created for the sake of the hyperbole.

Again, it's a very dehumanizing position towards trans people.

Nope, he’s just saying “do whatever you want with your gender, the goverment will not interfere”. We have 40% poverty, gender affirming care is a privilege we can’t afford right now(he doubled funding social welfare peograms because he believes that’s the priority)

He's at most tolerant of our existence, but he doesn't seem to be the guy that would do anything to protect the LGBT community

Tolerance is all we need, and it’d still be illegal to harm us just like it’s illegal to harm anyone else.

I'm not so sure turbocapitalism on steroids will save you.

We’re sure enough to vote him, we’ll see.

I personally dislike this guy's half assed positions and think he will turn on you the moment he "needs to respect the decision of the people".

We trust him enough to vote him, we’ll see.

Sucks to be a woman down there I guess. But whatever, they'll be martyred for "the good of the economy" and Milei's "plan to save Argentina".

Yeah we know he’ll try to ban abortion, he’ve been saying “I’ll call a referendum on the abortion laws” his whole campaign, that’s yet another reason why we(men and women) voted for him.

Also good for you that you voted for him? You don't have to be so defensive, I never attacked your "beliefs"

Nay don’t worry about it, we’re good, i don’t expect a foreign to be 100% in touch with my country’s problems, politics and culture. Also sorry bout bad english

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah we know he’ll try to ban abortion, he’ve been saying “I’ll call a referendum on the abortion laws” his whole campaign, that’s yet another reason why we(men and women) voted for him.

Then why is he trying to force a bill now instead of calling a referendum?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

He can’t “force a bill”, the congress needs to approve it. A referendum/plebiscite would be an alternative route in case the congress does not approve(which is almost a guaranteed)

Edit: apparently the bill you’re talking about was not made by him but by legislators of his party WITHOUT EVEN ASKING, there’s already conspiracy theories about this not being a “just fuck-up” but an intentional attempt to harm his image.