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[+] 199 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (110 children)
  • [–] 108 points 2 years ago (81 children)

    I don’t find it weird for hunting, but giving a child unrestricted access to firearms is insane to me given children are not able to assess risk the same way adults do.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (27 children)

    Before he passed away, my kids' grandfather bought all his grandkids their first 22 rifle. Some of the cousins were still infants but he wanted to buy them something. He was a prolific hunter and marksman. My kids guns all lived in the safe until they were old enough to shoot them, and now they live in the safe when not in use. You can give guns to kids all day long, that's not the problem and the gun is not the problem.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago (22 children)

    You can give guns to kids all day long, that’s not the problem and the gun is not the problem.

    The problem is not appropriately assessing whether the child in question she be allowed the gun. Are they responsible, are they going to use it for valid purposes. This holds true for, well, everyone always. A lack of reasonable regulation is the actual problem. I am glad you have responsibly managed the distribution and use of firearms for your children. We should do that for everyone.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    "A lot of "adults" don't seem to assess the risks either."

    Your frontal lobe on average fully develops at 25 and for some when they're older.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3129331/

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago (25 children)

    I know you're not referring to hunting rifles, but it is very common to give those as gifts to teenagers when they are old enough to get a hunting license. In some places that's 12 years old.

    My parents also made me take a course on gun safety tho....

    And they wouldn't let me use it unless it was with them....

    So this lady definitely still deserves her sentence. Also, no kid needs and AR or a pistol.

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    [–] 85 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    I watched the whole trial. The verdict was definitely just, but her lawyer didn’t do her any favors. At one point, in a moment of frustration, her lawyer exclaimed ‘I’m going to kill myself’, at a trial for a mother of a kid who killed a bunch of kids.

    She ‘opened the door’ to a whole bunch of evidence that had previously been ruled inadmissible, including the defendants infidelity and the entire text communications between the defendant and her husband.

    She said “I’m sorry” about a thousand times, which I am convinced was an intentional strategy to associate the defense with being sorry.

    They weren’t supposed to use the shooters name but she used it three times in her opening statement.

    Most of her objections were not valid legal objections, but just argument.

    The whole thing was a train wreck, I actually feel bad for her (the attorney not the defendant).

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    [–] 84 points 2 years ago (28 children)

    Shame it didn’t go this way for Rittenhouse.

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    I think rottenhouse was charged with 1st degree only and not 2nd degree, which was ridiculous. Trying to prove he had a premeditated intent to kill that night was a bad strategy by the prosecution. They would have gotten a conviction if they charged 2nd degree or even manslaughter, negligence resulting in death, or whatever.

    Its hard not to have conspiratorial thoughts when realizing that the only reason rottenhouse got off scott free was because he wasn’t properly charged. They could have charged him with 1st, 2nd, and manslaughter and let the jury decide, but for whatever reason they only charged 1st, even though they couldn’t prove intent.

    From the moment that trial started I was so frustrated because I knew they wouldn’t be able to prove intent which was necessary for the charges. I’ll never understand why they didn’t properly charge him.

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    [–] 43 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    This is good news and it’ll be better news when I see a father getting nailed for giving his sons guns

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  • [–] 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)
  • [–] 42 points 2 years ago (49 children)

    As a 2A Advocate / Gun Guy all I can say is GOOD. Parents who do this deserve to held legally responsible.

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    [–] 24 points 2 years ago

    Waiting for conservatives to tell us the 2A protects a child's right to own a gun. Come on, they've earned it guise!

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  • [–] 19 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Thumbnail looks like Mitch McConnell has reconsidered his stance on drag.

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    [–] 17 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    This was the case where the parents decided to be tried separately right? I wonder if we’ll see both end up in the same sentence.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 years ago

    There's a good chance the father takes a plea deal. The general consensus was the mother was the harder trial. There was some poor performance by her lawyers, but I doubt it counters the father being the one that purchased the gun.

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  • [+] 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Justice done, but ultimately this doesn't solve anything.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    Gun manufacturers should take note, they are one step away from fault now.

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  • [+] 41 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)
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