So it’s like the list of carcinogens in California that everything is basically carcinogenic
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In other news, blood Is red. Jk. In all seriousness we have known aspartame causes issues for awhile now
I'm not sure because I think more studies need to be done.
What I do know is I never liked diet coke or anything with artificial sweeteners. Never drank them. But when I got cancer I craved it. During chemo it was the only thing I could drink without issue. So there's that.
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I am curious whether this will actually impact what is considered safe to consume on a daily basis.
Again, many things are unhealthy and carcinogenic in large quantities. The infamos study showed that Aspartame was causing cancer in mice but the amounts they were given would be like humans eating bags of it every day.
For context, this is the same designation that bacon currently has, amongst a whole bunch of other things we all eat.
Yeah, but bacon is probably like the unhealthiest meat you can eat. Its packed with sodium nitrites to retain its pink hue and is absolutely off the charts for actual sodium content as well as saturated fat, which makes up nearly 70% of its calories. If you were eating a 1kg pack of bacon the way I see people chugging a daily liter o cola, it would be incredibly unhealthy.
Causes it, or possibly causes it? Seems like they should get their ducks in a row and find out conclusively?
There is no "conclusively".
What do you mean by "causes cancer"? Do you mean "any quantity at all causes immediate cancer in all people"? Because nothing does. Do you mean "some quantity over any time period causes cancer in some people?" Because almost everything does (just ask California).
The latter is probably closer to what they mean. But we don't consume gallons of aspartame daily for 50 years.
So the real question is "what is the risk when consumed in realistic quantities?" And it turns out there is almost no risk.
Hasn’t it already been proven to facilitate the development of Alzheimer? Honest question - I’m a layman in medicine and just worried about my dad chugging tons of diet products full of aspartame, thinking it’s the healthy choice (as opposed to non-diet lemonade for instance).
I don't know enough to disqualify the studies they cite, but I guess at least these folks seem to be the opposite of industry shills? There is an Alzheimer's section. US Right to Know: Aspartame
The Alzheimer's Association (safely covering their asses) defers to the FDA's approval but does note concerns have been raised. it's myth 5 here
Looks over at his Sweet N Low packets 😬
(I know, saccharin vs aspartame)
IDK why people are so determined to consume that shit.
I need my caffeine, but loathe the taste of coffee. So I drink tons of coke. If I drank the sugar variation, my size would be measured in football field units. With diet, I at least am not morbidly obese.
Because I like cold carbonated drinks, I like the taste of cola, but I don't like the thick, sugary, syrupy taste of actual Coke?
Surely you realize it's not because we have "aspartame cravings" or that we somehow think it's healthier (there's nothing healthy about Coke in any form anyway)...
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So let's say we stop playing semantics to the degree of harm and say that aspartame is not good for humans. Ok. What sweetener currently on the market is the least damaging option for me to pursue?
Probably regular sugar in moderation. Unfortunately moderation doesn't seem to be a word that food companies understand when it comes to sugar or sweetener. But if you drink coffee and add your own sugar, then that's probably the safest. At least your body knows what it is and how to deal with it.
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Feels like there are 2 classes of sweeteners:
- Proven to be bad for your health
- Not yet proven to be bad for your health
And whenever one in the second category becomes popular, it inevitably transitions to the first category.
Also, "proven" is a minefield these days. There are so many agents with so many agendas conducting these so-called medical studies. It's difficult to know what to trust. For example, for decades the sugar industry has been paying "scientists" to conduct dodgy studies into the effects of fat in your diet in an attempt to deflect from the true horrors of added sugar.
Stevia, erythritol, xylitol.