And then you get out of school and realise that those were the good times.
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Nah, peak is university in terms of free time.
I mean, for the subset of people who go to uni and can support themselves without also working a lot in that time, yeah.
In my time at uni there was
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work, at which the hours were inconsistent
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coursework, which there was a lot of
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constantly battling a shit landlord who didn't give a toss about uni students and left the flat in disrepair, but the housing shortage meant he could get away with charging a fortune for a mouldy flat with broken windows and non-working appliances
There was a lot of good, sure, but uni can be a very stressful time.
Not if you choose engineering as your major. Iβve never worked harder or longer hours than when I was in college.
If you knew how many times I thought about ditching my job and just go to uni againβ¦
I always got pretty worried when adults kept saying that school was the good times growing up, as I didn't have a particularly good time, and was not onboard for it being downhill from there.
Luckily I've learned that it's not actually universally applicable, my life has definitely just gotten better as I've gotten older.
It's different.
It's way better in some ways - especially if you find a good career in a field you're passionate about.
But some of the responsibilities of adulthood are a burden that is hard to appreciate until you're there. And the perspective gained by life experience is also very different, for better or worse.
For instance, I went through a breakup last year at 39 with someone I was fully expecting to marry. It was my first major relationship failure in decades, and as I was being dumped I expected it to crush me.
What ended up hurting the most was that it didn't hurt that much. I didn't spiral into depression or fall apart at work. I wasn't happy about it, but I was fine. A younger me would have been overwhelmed by the emotional toll, but the adult me was able to keep moving forward without breaking stride.
And in a way that's what hurts. The passion of youth has been tempered by a lifetime of experience that puts everything into perspective.
Ugh, as you get older, everything just starts to dull. Things are less important, less passionate, and more "meh" in general. And not in a depressed way, but more specifically that I've been there, done that for most emotions I could have.
I will say that now that I have an infant daughter, I'm finding those passionate emotions again and I'm excited as she's excited and sad when she's sad. That is the great part about parenting.
And in a way that's what hurts. The passion of youth has been tempered by a lifetime of experience that puts everything into perspective.
Ok, yes, I felt that.
I've got some bad news for you...
Yeah, that totally ends with school.
I definitely donβt live in this state perpetually while I work with no summer break and just a few days at Christmas. Nope. Definitely not.
Being American sounds shit. You really need to fight for paid holiday & sick leave. It's fucking bonkers you don't have it.
Iβm Canadian, where we market ourselves as better than Americans, but somehow I get more holidays when Iβm working for US firms.
Canada is a resource colony state and always has been.
Fuckin' tell me about it. Its bad enough our institutions treat us like dogs, but then the Europeans like to come in gloating.
This seems like the perfect place to use βoh my sweet summer childβ
At the time it really was like this. The amount of responsibility and work felt immense.
And we never realized it was about the best most of us would ever have it.
Oh, shit, was that supposed to stop at school?
Just wait until you finish school and join the work force lol
Yeah school is the tutorial :-/
Working just gets worse... π
Work is pretty much the same, but depending on your job it can be way worse, or actually not that bad. I've had both.
Started off in a repetitive job with highly demanding monthly targets that we'd need to hit to get our full bonus (which was a significant part of total comp, salary was low as hell). It was an endless cycle of "X more days until Friday".
I transitioned into software engineering. Ya know what? Occasionally I was EXCITED for the next work week. It's still work and it's hella stressful and sometimes you wish you could take the next 5 years off and have no obligations. But a lot of the time, you're not actively waiting for the weekend anymore. Helps that my commute before I transitioned fully to home office was a 12 minute walk and I had after-work activities on weekdays to be excited for.
School for me was living hell for 5 days a week, working for me is alright and at least i also have money to use in my free time. Which I have less of of course, but even if school hadn't been hell I'd never want to go back.
Which is to say, if anyones reading this who's still in school and is getting discouraged from people saying working is worse, don't be. It's very subjective and depends on your job too. If school feels like torture, work will probably be an improvement.
Honestly the worst thing about school were the other kids. Everybody are little psychopaths and are utterly ruthless. At work everybody just wants to get paid and no one really gives a shit about other's business (YMMV though).
Also there's no homework, which is a godsend as somebody with ADHD. Just show up, work your little butt off and go home, nice and simple.
Nice.
Spoken like someone that hasn't been working very long, or if at all.
While school can be very pressure intense around exams in ways many jobs aren't you at least have summer and other breaks. For work you get vacation time sure, but it's nowhere near in terms of time.
Further adult life has a whole slew of responsibilities on top that you need to handle. Most 30+ can't subside on the crap we ate during college, we can't fuck off from our responsibilities when we can't be arsed with minimal consequences and we sure as shit won't find social stimulus without putting in effort, neither friends nor romantic. Sure if you live where you've always lived then you hopefully have childhood/school friends left at 30 but if you've moved then it's not a given at all.
canβt fuck off from our responsibilities when we canβt be arsed with minimal consequences
This might be the most (long term) depressing thing about adult life. Having a class for a semester or a year means that the mental overhead of a class builds up but, when you're done, that demand is gone and you start over without baggage next term. Jobs build up that overhead, but it just never lets off, ever, unless you quit to take a new job. Switching (professional) jobs is similar to a semester/year end and - esp if you can swing a couple weeks in between - gives you that re-zeroing and that little honeymoon period at the beginning like the start of a class when you don't have homework yet. The difference is that the switch often occurs on a scale of a decade, not a year.
Honey, welcome to life.
Then I suppose school really is preparing you for life. All this time I thought they were just teaching to the test.
"You are running out of 'It is what it is', are you sure you want to continue?" [Y][N]
sucks to suck -- would you like to continue?
Boy do I have news for you
Wait until you discover jobs
Look on the brightside. You still have the weekend when you are in school. Wait until you get a family and every single fucking weekend is taken up events you don't want to go to but you get nagged into.
Hey, you don't need a family to have your whole weekend eaten up by a bunch of shit you don't wanna do.
Work too
What do you think life is.... :)
Even though it's not endless, thank God.
With school, you have something to look forward to. It's supposed to end at a certain point. Just wait until you get into the workforce.
It's preparing you to do the same for work.
Just wait until you realize that's all the workforce feels like too.
That's why concepts for longer weeks never worked out.