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[–] [email protected] 102 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah this popped up on the BBC and as usual it was just "video from years ago", "appears to show" and then some quotes from defectors saying "they shoot you if they catch you watching squid game". Just hilarious levels of make-believe.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Which is hilarious because Squid Game is implicitly pro-DPRK

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (3 children)

I never watched Squid Game (because I am a little contrarian) but is the show really pro-DPRK or just anti occupied Korea?

[–] [email protected] 101 points 9 months ago (3 children)

The North Korean defector character cannot answer and remains silent when asked whether it would have been better to stay in North Korea. In South Korea it's illegal to share any opinion on TV that shows DPRK positively, so this is literally the most pro-DPRK they could be without breaking the law.

[–] [email protected] 69 points 9 months ago (5 children)

In addition, the North Korean character is shown pretty explicitly as being abused by a South Korean group focused on "helping detectors". She is financially extorted for even more money to bring the rest of her family to South Korea, while iirc also being SA'd by the guy who's supposedly helping

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago

story spoilerAlso she gets killed by a financial capitalist in the end. She was winning the games with her strength and the intelligence with the sacrifices of her comrades, but the capitalist breaks the "rule of law" and "fair competition" to kill her. He doesn't get punished but rewarded with advancement to the next round.

Having this sequence of actions happen to the North Korean character isn't coincidental. The whole show is a giant critique of capitalism but there's layers and layers of it until the end.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago

Just anti capitalist Korea. It's illegal to show support for DPRK in the South. There's been policing actions as recent as 2019 over displays of Kim Il Sung.

Realistically, it's as much pro-DPRK as it can get before the writer gets summoned for police/CIA questioning.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yo what if fucking Squid Games is like fucking NORTH KOREA and how evil Kim Jong UN is?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit man. Mind == blown

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

It's a shame they weren't able to smuggle the sound out of the country as well. Especially with how widely spread this video was.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 9 months ago

the footage is rare but the audio is legendary foil

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[–] [email protected] 86 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No sound, no original subtitles, no one talking, shown by the BBC.

Source: My balls

[–] [email protected] 81 points 9 months ago (9 children)

I read an account by a DPRK defector once. He had been given fingernail clippers that were made in the USA. They were so well made, and cut such neat clean lines that they made him despondent, because he knew the DPRK could never make anything that well.

flannel-yellow

[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wtf they're nail clippers. If you can manufacture AKs you can manufacture nail clippers. Literally 3 bent and cut bits of polished spring steel, a rivet, and a retaining pin

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago

Are there still nailcliplers made in America? I don't believe I ever bought one not Chinese.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 9 months ago

Gotta scroll down ten comment threads to get to the first one that's critical of the narrative being presented.

You can just overlay any text over a video and people believe it.

Fucking TRUE

[–] [email protected] 72 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Yeah my coworker tried showing me this. There's no audio and nothing to indicate what's actually going on. I don't know what trials in the DPRK like, but do they really look like this? The audience looked like they were in a stadium or auditorium or something. For all I know this could be a theater and everyone on that stage is an actor.

I don't even think watching dramas are illegal in the DPRK lmao. I'm pretty sure nearly everyone in the DPRK watches pirated media they buy on USB drives and no one cares.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 9 months ago

Yeah they sell them on the street, government owned vendors do it. Jaka Parker filmed it

[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (6 children)

what in the everloving fuck is the SAND Institute? they make it sound like a legitimate organization, but literally the only mentions I can find of it anywhere are either quoting the BBC article or the article itself

these fuckers can just outright make shit up and there's going to be some rube who'll buy it, zero questions asked

[–] [email protected] 65 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's just rare footage bro you wouldnt have seen it. She goes to a different school

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

https://sand.or.kr/kr/

Unfortunately without the ability to understand Korean I can't Google any info on funding, but if I had to guess I would say NED or US state department.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 9 months ago (3 children)

lmao, I'm checking out the website with google translate and it's absolutely breaking my CIA meter, this shit looks like one of these fake websites the CIA used as fronts for spies in Iraq

look at their history section, lol

also, in the SAND activities page, there's a tab that goes into their vast social contribution:

I know that google translate does not give perfect results, but this is hilarious to me lol a completely empty shell of an organization that just sprang up out of seemingly nowhere and somehow has enough credibility to be taken seriously by the BBC, the supposed bastions of quality journalism... get the fuck outta here

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago

SAND in my asscrack :kelly:

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 9 months ago

BBC: They are being sentenced to a life of hard labor for watching tv

Reality: Me and the boys interrupting the adults to ask if we can buy a Fortnite skin

[–] [email protected] 56 points 9 months ago

god I hope I wasn't ever this fucking stupid in the past

[–] [email protected] 52 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Baking the blurriest jpegs harder than Q.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This looks like a school auditorium, 90% chance it's some sort of explanation of the judicial process

[–] [email protected] 49 points 9 months ago

Would people really do that, just use ambiguous footage of something and make up a whole lie about north korea to tell on the internet?

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (2 children)

There is litteraly nothing in this clip that indicate what they are being convicted of, where the fuck are they getting that from? Also, am I the only one to think it's a little sus that this video doesn't have any audio?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 9 months ago

Audio could be a problem, because it would mean that someone who can speak Korean could translate. We need a white guy who has never left America to be our guide to understanding the strange ways of the Oriental Despots.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 9 months ago (4 children)

It's fine that there's no audio, as Westerners believe neither their ears nor their eyes. A while back there was a top post on reddit-logo about Chinese fans at an association football game. The headline did not match the content of the video at all, yet all the commenters were eating it up. I forget exactly what the claim was. Maybe about wearing masks? Lol

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Yo, any folks on here got info about this SAND institute that sourced this video.

Trying to look them up only gives me the BBC article about this video which has this to say about them "This video was provided to the BBC by the South and North Development (Sand), a research institute that works with defectors from the North."

Something deeply sus about this, if you don't mind me donning the tinfoil hat a sec.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I was curious and looked a bit more into this. So looking up public information regarding the org in Korean, there's 0 employees. The registered address is in a residential apartment building directly facing the head office of seoul metropolitan office and two blocks away from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. 1

These are their web presence Youtube Webpage Twitter

It seems to be an evolution of NK defectors association. But I didn't look much into it because I got sidetracked by the South Korean Ministry of Reunification that I stumbled upon while looking into SAND. The planning regarding the forced privatization of North Korean land is wild.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 9 months ago

uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wonder why the audio was cut. No way what is actually going on is different from the reporting, surely!

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago

Americans try not to make up unhinged lies about the victims of their genocidal psychosis challenge: Impossible difficulty.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 9 months ago

It has to be fake, the guy sitting with his legs spread would have been shot on the spot if this was real. kim-salute

[–] [email protected] 37 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Reddit is no different than the elderly sharing Facebook memes.

Gen question, is there any policy against watching foreign media or is it an access issue because of the sanctions?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago

Every morning, when I wake up, the first thing I do is drink a big glass of leaded gasoline because I'm an American and it's my right. The next thing I do is wonder how horrible it would be to live in a country that regularly imprisons children.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

They can just make up whatever they want and everyone believes them

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