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[–] [email protected] 248 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Listen to him. He is not lying on this one. Make sure you vote or there will be no more democracy, even this extremely flawed one is better than a dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The lie is usually accompanied by a truth.

In this case the lie is that he'll give up the power.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Star Wars moment.

Don't get played like Jar Jar!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (2 children)

The people who support him sure as hell are listening. They absolutely want a Sulla figure to take full control and purge who they consider as undesirable.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago

Little do they realize that as soon as they cease to be useful to Trump and his ilk, they too will suddenly be considered "undesirable."

[–] [email protected] 11 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Because that worked out so well....

Less than 10 years after Sulla was dead the republic was run by bleeding Crassus and Pompey.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They're not a particularly smart bunch, that's for sure. Especially considering who ended up being targeted in the prescriptions.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (3 children)

There’s no downside for Republicans. If he succeeds they get to be close to the throne. If he fails they won’t be held accountable. It’s a win win for them because we don’t hold politicians accountable.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He's also pretty much guaranteed to be dead in less than ten years, so all those narcissistic Republican assholes assume it will be them personally that takes the throne when it happens. So of course they support him.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He’ll be replaced by one of his idiot children. It’ll be the dumbest monarchy in history, and that’s saying something.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Evil somehow lives until their hundreds

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago

There are many downsides for Republicans, they just aren't thinking they will be effected like everyone else. All states rights are void on day 1. He doesn't give a shit about constituents.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

Those idiots are no students of history and it won't be a win-win for them, either. If he succeeds, it is as likely as not they end up on the short end of the stick, too. These kinds of things always tend to end up that way.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The lying bit is where he claims that he'll only be a dictator for one day. How many dictators have given themselves ultimate power and then gave it up willingly after a single day?

If Trump regains office, he'll assert dictatorial powers. Maybe we can survive this via a mass uprising, but it's unlikely. It would be like needing to survive open heart surgery, chemotherapy, and five organ transplants all at once. Could a patient survive this? Maybe, but the prognosis wouldn't be good and even if they did, they'd be in horrible shape for quite a long time.

The best way of surviving Trump is to make sure he never gets close to the White House (or any other position of power) ever again. And, while we're at it, vote against any Republican who kisses up to Trump. (So, basically, all of them.)

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No, we should actually put millions of vulnerable people at risk to preserve our very important ideological purity and my ego-driven stance that the US is irredeemably wicked ok? Also, I am definitely not a troll trying to get Donald Trump elected by pretending to be a leftist, so don't at me or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

If Trump is reelected, he will immediately replace everyone he can with Red-hat toadies, and then sign a barrage of dictatorial, overreaching executive orders, most of which would likely be unconstitutional. Lawsuits would naturally follow immediately with the courts placing those orders on hold until they can be adjudicated. Trump's toadies, however, will go ahead and act on those orders regardless of the court's decisions. Some of the toadies will subsequently be arrested, of course, for any actions that are illegal. Trump will then pardon those toadies which will embolden all the rest of his Red-hats since they will now believe, rightly or wrongly, that they will be pardoned too. Trump will then keep signing even more orders as Democracy dies burning.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If Trump is reelected, he will immediately replace everyone he can with Red-hat toadies

This isn't a conspiracy. This is a fact: Project 2025 by the Heritage Foundation

Although the system appeared to be sufficient for the nation’s first century, progressive intellectuals and activists demanded a more professionalized, scientific, and politically neutral Administration. Progressives designed a merit system to promote expertise and shield bureaucrats from partisan political pressure, but it soon began to insulate civil servants from accountability. The modern merit system increasingly made it almost impossible to fire all but the most incompetent civil servants. Complying with arcane rules regarding recruiting, rating, hiring, and firing simply replaced the goal of cultivating competence and expertise

Such a reliance on holdovers and bureaucrats led to a lack of agency control and the absolute refusal of the Acting Attorney General from the Obama Administration to obey a direct order from the President.

Congress should also consider whether public-sector unions are appropriate in the first place.

Central Personnel Agencies: Managing the Bureaucracy

During their terms, the three Republican commissioners have demonstrated with their votes and their public statements that they believe the FEC should not overregulate political activity and act beyond its statutory authority, construe ambiguous and confusing provisions against candidates and the public instead of the government, and infringe on protected First Amendment activity

Federal Election Commission

Leeja Miller - The Conservative Plan to Take Over the Country (you need to know about this)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

Clicked on "Department of Education" and this is the first sentence:

Federal education policy should be limited and, ultimately, the federal Department of Education should be eliminated.

The second paragraph praises Milton Friedman, someone who should be up there with Kissinger in terms of what a disgusting piece of shit he and his followers are. If anyone wants to know what's about to happen to the US, read Naomi Klein's The Shock Doctrine to see how it's gone when we've had our "free market capitalist" hands in other countries' business. It makes me physically ill. I hope all the gEnOcIdE jOE people understand what this place, and several other countries, will look like with trump in office.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I think it's important to remember that he could care less if nothing works so when say replace, what he might actually do is just remove.

He could cripple the federal government and just not replace people.

Eventually, they will get replaced but he could do a ton of damage by removing any politically appointed officials, auctioning off those positions to business interests, and having them fire everyone they can (or will, really, becuase I think you'd be going to court over this).

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 9 months ago

The disgraced former president, who is currently facing more than 90 felony charges in four separate jurisdictions and is scheduled to go on trial in March for attempting a coup to keep himself in office after losing the 2020 election, promised to spend his first day of a second term ruling as an autocrat during a town hall broadcast on Fox News ahead of the first-in-the-nation Iowa caucuses.

god damn

[–] [email protected] 61 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Oh, so he only wanted to be a dictator for the FIRST day. Got it, sir.

That anyone supports this fetid fecal stain is beyond my comprehension.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago (2 children)

He revealed that significant Americans are also fecal stains. Anyone who supports Trump at this point is dead to me.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 9 months ago (1 children)

If you had told me ten years ago that a double digit percent of the US population would actively cheer for ending democracy in favor of monarchy I'd have thought you were nuts.

It's been very disappointing in my fellow citizens.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Ten years ago people WERE saying that... but it was just the maga precursor tea party goons saying that democrats wanted to make Obama the king. It's always been projection.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

100%. It's not political anymore, it's moral.

I've been on the outs with my dad since 18 (36 now) but over covid didn't block him when he sent a friend request on fb. I ended up blocking him due to a comment he left on a post and my aunt bitched me out for blocking him over "politics." The comment? "those protesters wouldn't be a problem if we just gunned them down."

Last time I saw my best friend from high school, he called me a libtard for describing my one stop shop healthcare at the VA and mentioning I'd like everyone to have that simple experience of - See doctor, run tests, get meds, go home.

These are people I just don't fucking want in my life. Everyone screeches about cancel culture, no you're just a tedious asshole. Like with the comedians, crying about cancel culture to sold out stadiums. No you're not being canceled, there's just only so many ways you can make the #OneJoke of "trans women are men LULULULUL" before it gets old.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 months ago (10 children)

And yet the trolls or naive people here are saying that they won’t vote for Biden because he hasn’t flown over the Israel and slapped Netanyahu. Yes it sucks what’s happening in Gaza, but not voting, or voting for Trump will be oh so much worse.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 9 months ago

it was hard to believe anyone supported him before... but now it's surreal...
feels like a weird nightmare....

[–] [email protected] 47 points 9 months ago (4 children)

This is so dangerous. Why can't US citizens see that?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Decades of systematically undermining our education system by the party benefiting from the dumb-as-dirt electorate who will gleefully vote for a dictator. Now they're banning controversial books, such as 'The Dictionary.'

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Most of us do, and have been screaming it for years.

But the main issue here is that some of us are just catastrophically stupid.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

Gerrymandering and disenfranchisement are tools the right uses at every possible chance as well, so we not only have stupid people but they’re being actively manipulated by bad faith actors.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

About 1/3rd of the country realizes he's dangerous, 1/3rd are apparently fine with it and actually think a dictatorship will solve all their problems, and the other 1/3rd are apathetic and will probably 'both sides' themselves into letting Trump plunge the country into third-world status and letting Russia/China/autocrats run roughshod over the rest of the world. It's absolutely ridiculous that we've gotten here in the short span of four years, as if people have already forgotten how shitty 2016-2020 was and all the felony crimes Trump is currently on trial for.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 9 months ago

Normalization.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 9 months ago (1 children)

He's saying the quiet part out loud. And all the monkeys in his teabagger base that are supposedly all for "freedom" and "the Constitution" beat off to it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago (3 children)

This, I think, is one of the largest changes Trump instilled in his followers.

They aren't scared of being outed as a racist because the former cheeto in chief was always saying the quiet part out loud. Then his supporter politicians. Then his base.

I'm balding, horribly, and as such shave my head. Otherwise I wind up looking like I spent a vacation in Chernobyl.

The amount of people who are openly racist around me has quadrupled since 2016, easily.

Makes me wanna see if there are any SHARP groups around locally.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 9 months ago

"I promise. I'm just going to put it in a little bit. It won't hurt. Just a little bit"

Yeah... We've all heard stories like that and we know how those stories ended....

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Every political story these days just ends in me saying “everyone who votes for ________ should be immediately launched into the sun”.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 9 months ago

Day-one and one-day have very different meanings, and it seems telling that he seems to use the former…

[–] [email protected] 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

He always means what he says when its shit like this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 9 months ago

That's what Putin and Kim said.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 9 months ago

When people tell you who they are, believe them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I'm not going to watch it. Did he use the specific word."dictator"?

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 9 months ago

But just ONE day guys. Relax.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

America has some great food, people and nature, at least in my opinion as someone visiting from Australia. I think its just the political people and yhe majority of cops that suck.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Keep that in mind when we need Australia to take American refugees, friend.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 9 months ago

Seriously, I don't need much. Just a bit of food and a dry place to sleep, cunt.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Former president Donald Trump on Wednesday again vowed to seize dictatorial powers if elected to the nation’s highest office once more but attempted to walk back his frequently made promise to exact retribution on his political enemies during a second term in the White House.

The disgraced former president, who is currently facing more than 90 felony charges in four separate jurisdictions and is scheduled to go on trial in March for attempting a coup to keep himself in office after losing the 2020 election, promised to spend his first day of a second term ruling as an autocrat during a town hall broadcast on Fox News ahead of the first-in-the-nation Iowa caucuses.

He also attempted to turn back Democratic criticism of his intention to be an autocrat by describing reporting of his pledge to rule as a dictator “on day one” as a “new narrative” meant to paper over a poor governance record by President Joe Biden, his successor and likely general election opponent.

The ex-president again complained about press coverage of his prior remarks, accusing media outlets of failing to report that he’d limited his dictatorial ambitions to his first day in office.

Mr Trump’s participation in the Fox News town hall comes just days before he expected to win the Iowa caucus, which he lost to Texas Senator Ted Cruz during his first run for the White House in 2016.

And despite his frequent promises from the stump to turn the machinery of law enforcement against top Democrats, he told the television audience that he wasn’t planning on weaponising the government to punish his enemies, though he also said “a lot of people” would say doing just that is “not so bad”.


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