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AI-Generated George Carlin Drops Comedy Special That Daughter Speaks Out Against: ‘No Machine Will Ever Replace His Genius’::Stand-up comedian George Carlin has been brought back to life in an artificial intelligence-generated special called 'I'm Glad I'm Dead.'

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

This must be the absolute epitome of this AI replication poor taste... The person who thought it would be a good idea to do this with Carlin, probably the one human who hated human bullshit more than anyone else to have ever existed, is either so out of touch they don't even vibrate at the same frequency as the rest of existence, or so far up their own ass that they're staring at their pancreas... An absolutely disgusting move.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

so out of touch they don't even vibrate at the same frequency as the rest of existence, or so far up their own ass that they're staring at their pancreas

What gets me is the creator says they "studied" Carlin in order to match his style. Imagine consuming Carlin's entire body of work and still somehow thinking this was a good idea...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

I'm guessing they started with Carlin to get all the fuss out of the way up front, so they can get on with doing all the others with minimal outcry.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Or they're smart by trying to create outrage and generate those tasty clicks

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of all those efforts to create Hologram Tupac.

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

“I just want to let you know very clearly that what you’re about to hear is not George Carlin. It’s my impersonation of George Carlin that I developed in the exact same way a human impressionist would"

No, was not developed in the exact same way a human would work, because it's not human. Should we let pitching machines play pro baseball now, just because they can throw any pitch with pinpoint control?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Should we let pitching machines play pro baseball now, just because they can throw any pitch with pinpoint control?

This is how we end up with Blernsball

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The blerns are loaded, the count's three blerns and two anti-blerns and the infield blern rule is in effect, right?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Except for the word "blern" that was complete gibberish.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

BLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No one cares if it's right or wrong ... absolutely no one cares what anyone thinks about any of it, about ethics, morals, respect or rights.

All anyone cares about is how much money it's going to make.

We should install a turbine onto Carlin's coffin because he's probably spinning so fast right now, he could power New York City.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

This has happened with the estates of famous people for a long time. It didn't start with the current trend of deep learning systems.

Tupac's estate has mined every single little recording he did and pressed it to an album. Gene Roddenberry's notes got turned into two series (Earth: Final Conflict and Andromeda), both of which started pretty good and slowly degraded over time. The Tolkien estate was held back by Christopher for a long time, but now he's gone, the remaining heirs are happy to rake in the cash, and they're being thoughtless about what they greenlight (like the Gollum game) (oh, and there's only about 20 years for them to keep the copyright, which isn't that long; Peter Jackson movies were about 20 years ago).

Franz Kafka instructed all his unpublished manuscripts be burned when he died. GRRM has instructed that even if he doesn't finish A Song of Ice and Fire before his death, it will not be picked up by another author to finish. These are wise people.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

A notable exception would be Robert Jordan and his Wheel of Time series. He prepared notes so someone could finish the work and his widow picked Brandon Sanderson to finish the series. But I think it feels easier to milk it than to be thoughtful with the life's work of someone, as this requires a lot "would he have liked it" and to know this you would have to start caring early.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago

This is in very poor taste.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I met Kelly Carlin once. She is an awesome human being and cares a lot about her father's legacy.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is some kind of bad joke right?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

That or a lot of very, very bad jokes

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (10 children)

I'm not here to rage about the whole human vs machine thing because I honestly don't give two shits. However, this isn't very good. The pacing feels like George Carlin, but that's about it. It's really more like an edgy Ryan Reynolds.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago

Stupid future run by stupid, greedy fools

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It sounds a lot less like George than I expected.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

It's his voice... But holy shit you're right. It didn't sound like him at all.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago

Of course they can't. But they can and will exploit every single word he's ever said. Then exploit every idiot who gives said AI product and sense of their attention.

Gotta be a dick here though. If they listen to the honestly lying charade running now then they didn't hear him when he explained the first time.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago

This is bullshit, and it's bad for you.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I listened to it and it's genuinely not bad (on a content and voice synthesis level), to the point that I have a hard time believing it was entirely AI-generated. If it's not a fake ghostwritten by the creators, it must have been heavily rerolled and edited to make it so coherent.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I listened to it and it’s genuinely not bad

Of course not. Its predicated on the collected works of a decades-long professional comedian.

If you re-mixed a new screenplay using the combined works of Shakespeare (and called it, idk, West Side Story or 10 Things I Hate About You or The Lion King) you could put together a blockbuster movie fairly easily, too.

If it’s not a fake ghostwritten by the creators, it must have been heavily rerolled and edited to make it so coherent.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fully agree. There's absolutely no way his whole bit about guns was generated from an LLM, while including the tangent about Japan. There had to have been a significant amount of leading prompts to get it to that point. At which point, whoever developed those prompts gets (at least partial) credit as a writer

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Senior Prompt Engineer

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

This is so tragicomedically the opposite of everything that Carlin was about in so many ways that it’s difficult to fully comprehend

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

If someone tried that with bill hicks we’d all end up in the matrix in a year.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Y'know, I was a pretty big Carlin fan, I had a few of his albums and even saw him live in concert once. I listened to the whole thing while driving, and I thought this was okay. It's obviously not George Carlin, but it sounded a lot like him, and I can imagine he would approve of many of the jokes. It wasn't a laugh-a-minute, but I did get lost in it a couple of times and forget that it wasn't really him, and I did laugh out loud a few times as well. (The joke about the best comedian for AI being Bill Cosby got me!)

Carlin's comedy was very topical, which doesn't always translate to today, so having new, up-to-date Carlin bits are actually cool. I can understand his daughter's apprehension, but at least people are talking about her dad again, so I would think that's a good thing.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

People never stopped talking about her dad. This junk isn't the boost to the real Carlin's place in pop culture some are painting it as.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

The man was a genius for sure 100% I loved every bit of all the shit he said.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Why do all of the comments make it seem like people think that someone asked chatgpt to write a George Carlin routine or whatever? A human person, not a computer, wrote some comedy in (what they felt) was in the style of George Carlin. The technology portion of this was the cloning of Carlin's voice to "perform" the routine. And you can feel however you want about either part of that. I mean, seems like you'd have to be pretty far up your own ass to think you can just put your own words into the mouth of someone else, especially someone who is no longer in a position to call you a fucking idiot, or not. But the story that people are commenting on, sure seems to be quite different to the actual events that occurred.

As far as the actual story, they know what they did. They know full well that they could have actually did a Carlin impersonation if they had wanted. They could have written their material, went up on stage, said exactly want they were doing, performed their bit, dressed up for the part, hitting as many of the mannerisms as they could. A real, actual, proper attempt at an impersonation. They could have done that, and almost no one would have cared. A few people might have been upset about it, as there always are. But largely, no one would have batted an eye.

But they didn't do that. They did this. They did this, knowing full well that the claim of it being an "impersonation" was bullshit. And knowing full well what the response would be. And it was exactly the response they wanted. All of the attention and outrage they are getting directed at them right now? That was the point.

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