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[–] 179 points 2 years ago* (2 children)

Motherfuckers moving digits around hoping nobody will notice.

440 -> 400? Nah, too obvious.

440 -> 404? Greasy, let's do that!

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  • [–] 94 points 2 years ago (3 children)
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    [–] 60 points 2 years ago

    That 440 down to 404 was deliberate as well. Meant to trick the eye at a glance.

    I know this is a nearly impossible task, but is anyone regularly tracking and documenting the shrinkflation in products?

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  • [–] 58 points 2 years ago (33 children)

    That probably means that a ton of things are switching to 404ml cans, because I don't think those are usually custom made for a single beverage.

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  • [–] 55 points 2 years ago (24 children)

    That is such a ridiculous number, though. As if someone specifically looked for a number where you might miss that it's different from 440 ml.

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  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (20 children)

    It's a pub pint.
    There are a lot of beer can sizes.

    Imperial, the common ones are

    • 24oz (usually only VERY cheap beer)
    • 19.2 oz "imperial" pints (often called stovepipes/smokestacks)
    • 16oz pints (usually called tallboys, though larger sizes are ALSO often called tallboys)
    • 12oz "classic"/standard cans
    • and nips (8.4oz) which I don't know the reason they're the size they are.

    However, in bar tradition, a "pub" pint is a typical size, which is what this can is -- about 14oz. These happen a lot since they're served in a shaker pint glass that LOOKS like a typical pint glass but has an extra thick bottom that makes those 2oz disappear. The commonness of this style of glass is why so much EU glassware has the mandatory 40cl line.

    Metric cans come in a lot more sizes, but as I understand it the standard ones are 330ml, 440ml, and those same 568ml (19.2oz) stovepipes.

    The point is, this ridiculous number is a pub pint. Why that can size exists I do not know.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    Excuse the dumb question, but what kind of ounce are we talking about?

    There's apparently an "imperial fluid ounce", which is 28.4130625 mL.
    There's a "US customary fluid ounce", which is 29.5735295625 mL and certainly sounds like it might be customary in the US.
    But then there's also the "US food labeling fluid ounce", which is exactly 30 mL, and I guess, would be even more customary in US food labeling, but if it's an even mL number, then I'm confused how we end up with such a crooked number as 404.

    Or is it just that there's some regulation which says a pub-pint-sized can must be 14 oz, but for some reason, you're allowed to be half an ounce below that (404 / 30 mL = 13.466)...?

    Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluid_ounce

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Where is this at? I've never seen 440ml or 440ml cans in North America. Canned drinks/beers usually come in 355ml (12 US ounces), 473ml (16oz), 500ml (16.9 oz), or 19.2 US ounces (20 British ounces aka British pint). Other less common sizes are 8oz (236ml / Red Bull) and big beer formats like 24oz and 32oz (just shy of a litre).

    404ml is around 13.66 US ounces or 14.2 imperial ounces. 440ml is around 14.7 US ounces or 15.5 imperial ounces.

    Usually when you get a measurement that's not a nice round number like 500 or 750 it means it was probably converted from some other measurement standard. But both measurements seem completely arbitrary for what I assume is an English speaking country.

    I looked through some antique measurements but didn't find anything useful. It seems to be more than half a chungah, but far less than a butt.

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    [–] 48 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    And it's no longer organic!

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    [–] 46 points 2 years ago (9 children)

    Yeah, the Guinness pint is now 14.9 fucking ounces in the US. Relatives of mine in Ireland confirmed that if they did that shit there, they'd have another rebellion.

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  • [–] 39 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    What is 440ml to begin with? A propper beer in a can is 500ml, a propper beer in a bottle is 330ml or 500ml. Everything else is a scam.

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    [–] 23 points 2 years ago (8 children)

    In Norway, we have a law that says grocery stores have to give two prices, one for the product, and one for the product in a compareable size, like 1litre or 1kg for easy comparison. This safeguards againt shrinkflation.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    Aaand Mill Street is now boycotted.

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  • [–] 32 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It's just part of the vast near-monopoly of the beer market that is AB InBev. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_Street_Brewery

    If you want to boycott them, only buy beer from a small time brewery you know isn't owned by them.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Their brewery was a fun tour, the brew master was fantastic. Pretty good burger too.

    Now it's bought up by a large conglomerate so while the organic is still nice, there are much better local options available.

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  • [–] 16 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    440 to 404oz. Penny pinching is a weird part of capitalism.

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    "That's not what I meant whan I said to hold my beer."

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    Damn and I thought they had the same amount and I was ready to call shenanigans. I’m still ready to call shenanigans but not for that reason. That’s so deceptive.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    It used to be organic but they took the carbon out?

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  • [–] 10 points 2 years ago

    I'm still furious about my tea box. Purchased 1 month apart and it went from 25 bags/box to 20 bags/box with the price increases about 16-18% (based on my head math, can't bother to calculate the exact amount)

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  • [–] 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Nitrogen Charged

    It's got Electrolytes!

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