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The Jews have lost the plot and what's worse is that on a very, very visceral level you can't discuss it rationally with them.

"It's us or them".

"They want to wipe us out"

"Remember the Holocaust"

What's horrible is I think most normal people understand that perspective and to some extent we get the deep seeded concern and driver to their actions.

They are punishing a people because of the actions of a few which is bad enough as it is but those people have also been caged for so long with no adequate leadership or organization to do anything about, well, anything.

I'm saying this as a non-Jew with 3 half-Jewish kids. I love the people... But as a nation they need to reflect on themselves not just on recent actions but historically.

I'm going to go to my grave on this, but what has happened to them was horrible and on par with numerous atrocities over the world. Indigenous people were wiped out. Africa was raped and put into bondage for centuries. But what you have in Israel is different.

I think at it's core they continue to not be over The Holocaust. Hurt people hurt people.

Nothing is going to change until the state of Israel changes their approach. Or they can hide behind American hegemony and continue making the ME less safe for them.

Sorry on the rant. It's frustrating. I'm miles away in Canada but anti-Semitism is on the rise everywhere and this bullshit behaviour by a shitstain leader is making things less safe for the people I know.

So the Hamas oct 7 terror attack (which we all condone)

You meant 'condemn', right?

So the Hamas oct 7 terror attack (which we all condone) hit about 1/3 security forces and 2/3 civilians.

Correction: If you count all casualties as caused by Hamas it's 1/3 security and 2/3 civilians. The IDF racked up a decent Israeli body count (as contradictory as that is) in their response to the attack so the actual ratio has even fewer civilians.

Correction: allegedly it hit 2/3 civilians. Reports suggest that IDF soldiers have been told to shoot without asking who they are shooting is going around. Other reports suggest they are trying to hide information and rejecting to invistigate these deaths because it doesn't matter and "there are many of them".

If we learn anything in the last few weeks is that the number is generously inflated.

Where I live, I'd probably get sued for the latter - are you really able to do that? That'd be swell.

The problem with this is, both are too cowardly to at it that they are either of those things, so they’ll walk on in.

It was a Hamas Church /s

Good question, while we're at it, could they also explain why they shot a janitor and bin collector?

“[My family] are reporting white phosphorous and gunfire into their compound,” she said. “The bin collector and the janitor have been shot and their bodies are laying outside and remain uncollected.”

Did they have Hamas bombs in the garbage bags? 🤔 Maybe they were smuggling weapons in the organic waste bin?

It's all Hamas's fault for making Israel do that, or at least that was the Israeli supporter's line yesterday.

Unless video emerges of Israelis actually firing the guns. Which has happened in other scenarios. I think the standard hasbara strategy will be just to say Hamas shot these people to make Israel look bad - false flag

Most people will say almost every major headline you see pushed has never been verified. It doesn't help that Israel isn't letting anyone verify and that it's too dangerous for independent journalists to try to get into Gaza themselves.

CNN cannot independently verify the conditions in and around the church, nor the allegation of the use of incendiary munitions (which can be illegal in some circumstances).

This is a developing story and will be updated.

Even if someone supports Israel, some of their actions are . This is one of them.