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[–] 161 points 2 years ago* (27 children)

Not so funny when it actually happens to you:

Because of really bad experiences with alcoholics as a child, I am afraid of people who drink. My psychologist and my doctor wrote that down.

When I became seriously ill and could no longer work in my old job, I had to retrain. To do this, you have to go to the German employment office and get an assessment of your strengths and weaknesses, including what your doctor and therapist have to say.

They read the paper from my doctor and my psychologist, but just skimmed over the words and decided that because the word "alcoholic" was there, I must be the alcoholic. They told me that I could get paid retraining and benefits, but only if I attended a therapy group for alcoholics once a week - me, who is afraid of alcoholics because of the abuse I suffered as a child. .... I immediately started crying and swore that I had no problem with alcohol, only with alcoholics!

It took 6 months to get someone at the job centre to actually read the papers word for word to find out that me saying "I'm not an alcoholic" was not me being an alcoholic in denial. I got a half-assed apology and my retraining 6 months after I could have started it because of this. Not to mention that every time I refused to go to AA meetings they threatened to take away my benefits and I was in such a bad mental state that I probably would have killed myself without the help of my family. Oh, and my family who tried to intervene were labelled as co-alcoholics, holding me back.

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  • [–] 36 points 2 years ago (24 children)

    They do AA in Germany? I thought that pseudo science was just an American thing.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (13 children)

    Group therapy is pseudo-science?

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  • [–] 38 points 2 years ago

    I assume they mean this?

    In the past, some critics have criticized 12-step programs as pseudoscientific and "a cult that relies on God as the mechanism of action". Until recently, ethical and operational issues had prevented robust randomized controlled trials from being conducted comparing 12-step programs directly to other approaches. More recent studies employing randomized and blinded trials have shown 12-step programs provide similar benefit compared to motivational enhancement therapy (MET) and cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), and were more effective in producing continuous abstinence and remission compared to these approaches.

    Source: Wikipedia

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    [–] 110 points 2 years ago (16 children)
  • [–] 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

    Oh, so you don't like it when other drink then?

    Edit: that's literally the response my buddy gets every single time it comes up, every single time without fail, even from other people who don't drink.

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    [+] 106 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)
  • [–] 31 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I'm in a similar situation with a bipolar diagnosis. I was diagnosed after speaking with a sketchy psychologist for 20 minutes at best. Apparently thinking you don't have bipolar disorder is a symptom of bipolar disorder.

    Even after working with two other psychologists for well over a year and both diagnosing me with PTSD and that diagnosis perfectly matching my experience, not a single doctor will put that on my medical record. They won't refer me to appropriate treatment. They won't change my medication and tell me it works instead of asking.

    I've been trying to get this fixed since 2008, but I just get shut down immediately after bringing it up. I'm barely getting by due to very poor mental health and everything just keeps getting worse.

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  • [–] 25 points 2 years ago

    Have you talked to a medical malpractice lawyer about your original diagnosis? Most will do an initial consult for free and work on contingency. In this rock-paper-scissor world lawyer beats doctor.

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    [–] 81 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    “I don’t have time for alcoholism—I’m too busy shooting heroin.”

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  • [–] 62 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    "My psychiatrist prefers to say that I have a 'substance use disorder' and cautions that the old 'alcoholism' model isn't very scientific."

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  • [–] 37 points 2 years ago (4 children)

    "I don't limit myself to just alcohol"

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    [–] 38 points 2 years ago (5 children)

    "I have literally not had alcoholic beverages even once in my life, how would it be possible to become an alcoholic given that?"

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  • [–] 34 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I drink a lot less now that I have easy access to THC.

    This goes for a lot of other bad things, too. "Just to get it out of the way, I am not a child molester".

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    [–] 31 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Only acoholics actually need to try to convince others that they aren't alcoholics. Nobody goes up to a person on the street to start aggressively asking if they have a drinking problem.

    Any serious questions about how alcohol is affecting your life will quickly demonstrate whether it is is or isn't a problem, without you ever saying that you don't have a drinking problem.

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  • [–] 22 points 2 years ago (7 children)

    It's because denial is part of being an alcoholic. The same goes with being called a liar.

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    [–] 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    It’s pretty easy, actually. I drink around twice a month. No one could credibly accuse me of alcoholism.

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    [–] 13 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    That's exactly what a fuckin boozer would say, also.

    Although... I've been drinking since about October o'clock.. so, what the fuck would I know about it, anyways.

    (I say: they can stop anytime you want me to.)

    Cheers!

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  • [–] 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    I literally just threw up. I feel better now though.

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    [–] 12 points 2 years ago (1 child)

    I dodged it as a youth, no point starting it now.

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    I only drink on weekdays ending with 'y'

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  • [–] 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Drinking just isn't my sort of thing

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    [–] 11 points 2 years ago

    "I have about three drinks a week and get drunk maybe once or twice a year. I'd say I'm the picture of moderation, but I'm not really concerned with how you feel about my drinking habits."

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