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I can relate deeply. Eventually with old friends I do power through, but IDK how
The only way I can break the cycle is by diving in and clearing backlog periodically. Then realizing it wasn't half as difficult to tackle them as I'd imagined. Then the cycle begins again. With it, the sense of guilt and dread.
I used to feel bad about this in the age of email. I would try to stay on top of my comms but at some point I realised I was dedicating a vast amount of time to a job that was never finished. I stopped using email entirely about ten years ago and I never think twice about it. I reasoned if it can be done for email it can be done for any type of message. I rarely open letters or text messages or watch adverts. I don't want to clutter my mind by living in a world of concepts that are defined by other people and I feel better for it.
I'm going for like a "this person is a rockstar, too busy to notice every email" angle. Sorry, I just made $X for the company by doing [part I actually like].
It actually has a name it’s called task activation avoidance. We want to ignore it as long as possible because the minute we open it it becomes another responsibility we have to remember and complete. I struggle with this a lot but what helps is if I tackle them one at a time. I block off time out of my day to open them one at a time and try to complete it 100% whether that’s simply responding back or getting the person an answer. I definitely don’t always get them all but I do get a bit of dopamine from the feeling of completing one of them so there’s that.
Oh yeah. And the anxiety too. I have bills I can pay and I keep forgetting because of anxiety. It's not that I can't pay them. I hate looking at how much money I have or don't have. It's not healthy to my wellbeing.
I'm blessed I make good money that I don't have to look at my bank account.
Something I’ve been working on in therapy is “microavoidances” where you keep ignoring small things to the point your brain is wiring itself to think the small task you’re avoiding is actually a big problem. Just recognize when you’re doing it, see if the discomfort of checking is worse than the discomfort of continuing to avoid it. But really, it’s just practice doing the tasks you’re avoiding until you build up a tolerance
Has anyone found a strategy that works for this?
I work from home. So I scream, hit the desktop, run around my office, kick my chairs. I can make as much noise as I want as I'm totally alone. That puts me in a different mind state, I presume because I got my adrenaline levels up, and I can open the fucking email. Yes I look like a crazy man, and maybe I am, and it makes me hate myself a little more, but it works. Most times at least.
Oh yeah, that would work for me too. This is akin to running up the the wall the ADHD put up and barging through it. But using the brute force approach to any ADHD thing is quite tiring so I'm curious to see if anyone has managed to trick their brain somehow
guilt is a core part of the game loop that is my ADHD life
Oh, I usually end up doijg the comolete opposite -- wait for weeks until the other side firgets they sent the kessage and accepts they won't be getting an answer, and only then read it and pretend I only just noticed it then. By that point all their potential anger over me not having replied will have passed, so there is less guilt for me to have to overcome.
I've had a BS email job for about ten years now, and I can honestly say that if it was actually important, they'd have emailed again. And if they should have? Hurray, everyone dropped the ball! You get to swoop in and say "hey, just going over some old emails - we addressed this, right?" Framing plays a big role in how people respond to late follow-ups.
they'd have emailed again.
Right, but if I'm avoiding even opening my email software, then I don't need to see either email lol
they'd have emailed again
That makes me feel even more guilty. Sometimes the stress makes me open the new email, sometimes not and these are the worst ones.
This is one of the reasons I stopped talking to an autistic girl I knew in collage
Nope. Marshall McLuhan said "the medium is the message" E-mails and texts are designed as asynchronous, meaning you'll get to it when you get to it. If it was important it would have been a phone call or a meeting.
Knowing you have ADHD means never apologizing for getting to it when you get around to it.
I definitely used to feel that way but dealing with that at work has forced me to overcome it I think. I will still respond to an ancient personal message but with apologies.
All the fucking time…
Most of them is the result of “I’ll do it later” and then never get around to do it. Other times it’s because I don’t have the mental capacity to do it right now, but then feel too guilty to open the message when my head is right.
Yes. What works for me is to differentiate between reading a message and replying to it. I made myself a rule "fuck it, now im gonna just read the message and only then i decide whether i want to respond or not". Usually when I open the message I get motivation to respond it. If I don't want to respond still after reading then I tell the person that I will respond later and then think why I didn't want to respond. Is it boring? Is it my low energy? Is it that the person I'm speaking to is not comfy? If its because of them, I try to talk about it like look im sorry i know that youd like to speak about X but im not really enjoying these things so lets do something about it. Or just cut the communication if Im not interested in this person anymore
Ah I see. For me once I've read a message I feel obliged to start writing a response there and then because 1. I need to capture my authentic reaction otherwise I might forget later on what I actually wanted to reply, and 2. If I don't reply now then I'll forget later, or keep putting off the chore
You can try to start to ignore your friends on purpose (if you have enough confidence). You can even talk to them about it like look i have a problem with reading messages and responding to them so I want to try to separate these two phases so please dont be angry with me if i won't respond you in the same very instant. If they are true friends they will understand.
Also usually when I choose to ignore someone it's not really that important and it means that it's okay to forget about it - at the end of the day what stimulates us is urgency and if it's urgent there is no way we will ignore it. So if I,can afford to ignore it its highly likely that you can give a fuck about it for some time.
Also, you will be notified by the chat visually some time after when you open the app, or the person will write you again themselves, or you will want to write something to this person yourself, or you can even set the message to "unread" as a reminder to yourself, so be chill
It seems to be the writing part that's the hirdle for me because you have to do so much empathising, remembering, imagining, phrasing things acceptably, deciding what you actually want and working out how you actually feel (this can be a hard one), etc etc.
Yeah it sucks i dont like this masking part neither. Usually if i overthink about these things, it means that these people are not comfy for me and I just let them go. You absolutely dont have to meet all their emotional needs if you don't have energy or interest for this. I cleared a lot of people from my cirle recently and Im sooo relieved now because I can ignore them freely for days and then respond just with random shitpost meme and its so liberaring because noone gets upset (and they do the same bc they have adhd too lol)
I'm usually pretty good at opening them as soon as I notice then, but if it was from a while ago, and it wasn't a question that REALLY needs an answer, I probably won't respond.
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