image saying "at least the important software isn't being vibe cod-" (cut off) and showing a graph of em dashes in the linux kernel over time with a sharp rise the past few years

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[–] 14 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Unpopular opinion: I don't mind the use of AI by devs if it makes their work easier. As long as the devs are pros who understand whats going on and uses it to optimize their workflow, fine go ahead.

Where I don't whant AI is, first, in anything creative. I want art to be abother humans sharing their emotions and perception of the world, ever if it's sometimes poorly done, boring, or plainly bad. I have zero interest in art created by a machine, no matter how perfectly executed it is. The promise of AI was to make our life easier by optimising the boring and repetitive stuff so we can make fun and interesting things, not the other way around.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    In this case it is doing the work instead of them. We are increasingly going to have code running critical systems that no person has even bothered to look at.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    I hate to tell you this, but the code running most critical systems out there is already completely fucked.
    Most people assume that just because software developer has been a degree for the last few decades that everything has been rewritten by professionals, but there are a crazy number of systems still running 3-5 decades from when they were first created. A vast majority of this shit was written before "programmer" was a profession or a degree. So, everything was written by some person who had a job doing something that had nothing to do with computers, but either dicked with computers as a hobby, or was forced into it because no one else wanted to do it.
    People point at Y2K as the point when everything had to be rewritten and replaced, but most Y2k solutions just involved patching the software and nothing else. All that shit is still out there and running.
    And let's be frank, every profession has people that are just aren't capable but seem to stay in it no matter what. For every bad waiter you have ever dealt with, there is a developer who is just as shit at their job.
    And that is on top of companies who just don't give a fuck and who knowingly put shit software out because it is more profitable to cheat people than provide what they promised.

    So, don't worry about AI causing some great collapse. We were already well on our way there without AI.

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  • [–] 7 points 2 days ago (1 child)

    >unsourced information about an inflammatory topic shared in a humor community

    I trust this graph with every fiber of my being (/s)

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  • [–] 76 points 3 days ago (31 children)

    The em dash thing annoys me because I actually used em dashes a lot in my own writing. Now I've had to change how I write to keep people from assuming I'm using generative tools for writing.

    In the plus side, our mayor loves my writing style because he thinks staff should be using AI for everything.

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  • [–] 21 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    I never even heard of an em dash until I started reading about AI. I was just using hyphens everywhere I was apparently supposed to be using em dashes. I am a stickler for grammar and correct punctuation (except for punctuation inside quotes which my internal programmer won't allow me to do the American way) so I've started using em dashes -- and now people think I'm an AI.

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    [–] 231 points 3 days ago (26 children)

    I really love the emdash. I’m very—very—upset ai ruined it for me—cunts.

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    [–] 0 points 1 day ago*

    em dashes are not ai exclusive! humans have used them for ages before ai! stop calling all em dashes ai!!

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  • [–] 35 points 3 days ago (4 children)

    1000 day intervals... Nice. MM/DD/YY... Not nice.

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    [–] 68 points 3 days ago (32 children)

    You can get a lot done when you've got 29 months in a year

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    [–] 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Can we have this divided by the total number of commits?

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    [–] 76 points 3 days ago (21 children)

    As an actual human who uses em dashes


    or usually, two or three hyphens that turn into an em dash in Markdown


    I feel personally attacked.

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    [–] 81 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (29 children)

    I've been using linux for 18 years, but since reviewing the Open Slopware list I've been making a lot of changes.

    FreeBSD ticks almost every box I need it to. It runs Plasma, it runs Steam/Proton (through a thin compatibility layer that enables a lot of other linux software), it can be set up immutably and has superior containerization natively via jails. It even supports XDG compliance.

    But there is no support for changing voltage or clock rate on any amd gpu (maybe any gpu at all) and no driver support for my newer amd gpu at all.

    It honestly feels like how linux used to feel back in the day 😅

    I don't think I'm gonna jump ship just yet. The recent ai code fiasco that happened in the linux kernel (race condition, regression, vacation) was averted by the team of talented human developers who reviewed Linus' code. I am choosing to have faith that it will be ok for a while... given there are few alternatives.

    That being said, I think I might finally be ready to hop on the fuck-sysyemd train. I was able to look past the megalomaniacal tendencies of the dev because the tools were so convenient, but the AI PRs and code review pushes me over the edge. I am gonna configure a daily driver in Artix soon.

    Edit: I should note, FreeBSD also has some AI code issues. But the linux-libre kernel might not. Something like Hyperbola (GNU/Linux-libre) might be more appropriate for someone who is trying to avoid ai code strictly.

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    [–] 60 points 3 days ago (10 children)

    Man, I miss when Linux felt like a refuge. It's always been flawed of course but now it feels like everyone in positions of influence are embracing the awful

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    [–] 31 points 3 days ago (33 children)

    As someone that uses AI at work because 1. this is a run-out-the-clock situation, and 2. I don’t give a fuck and would like to be at my desk as little as possible, it feels weird and hypocritical to expect no AI in all of the software around me as well.

    With that said, if I still had any semblance of passion for writing code, which I do not, anything I worked on for the OSS community would be fully devoid of AI usage. But I’m mentally at a point where I’d rather move to a cabin and use computers less and less with each passing day.

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  • [–] 33 points 3 days ago (12 children)

    There’s also a huge difference between someone like Linus Torvalds, who understands code better than most people on earth, using AI supervised to increase productivity, and Timmy off the street having chatGPT build something he has no clue how it works or what code even does.

    Vibe coding isn’t just using AI. It’s using AI to do things you don’t understand in the first place.

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    [–] 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    Personally the only part I have seen is documentation is now vibe coded, where in the past, it was autism coded.

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    [–] 2 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    feels like this should be normalized in someway

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    IIRC Linus called the latest releases quite big (in size) and I would assume this connects to the number of security fixes that have come about lately.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 child)

    He also fixed some bugs using Claude too. So it probably does indeed have increasing AI usage as one component but also increasing submits as the other. The increased submits may still be AI linked (i.e they used AI to find bugs) but not necessarily done with AI. So overall something like (em dashes / a measure of commits) may look more tame than this.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago

    I agree completely. I am also curious about what alternative people who oppose this on a pure anti AI stance would propose. The cat is out of the bag and even slop is enough to deliver credible attacks these days.

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  • [–] 30 points 3 days ago (20 children)

    What is the accelerating rise of m-dashes from approximately 2014-2019 about? That trend apparently continued until very recently, even slowed down a bit, before exploding at some point in 2025 or 2026 for obvious reasons.

    Does anyone have a theory?

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    [–] 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    maybe people have now see the em dash in use enough that they're observing it's greatness in real usage!!!!

    /s

    -f pour one out for the em-dash, it's reputation has been tarnished

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