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[–] 74 points 1 day ago (31 children)

The em dash thing annoys me because I actually used em dashes a lot in my own writing. Now I've had to change how I write to keep people from assuming I'm using generative tools for writing.

In the plus side, our mayor loves my writing style because he thinks staff should be using AI for everything.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago

    I don't advise changing the way you write. It's a skill you need to flex, and unless you're using em dashes incorrectly then you should be able to find ways of differentiating yourself from AI without fundamentally changing how you communicate.

    Idk, just food for thought. Fuck anyone that tries to say I use AI to write — they can eat a bag of dicks.

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  • [–] 22 points 1 day ago (7 children)

    I never even heard of an em dash until I started reading about AI. I was just using hyphens everywhere I was apparently supposed to be using em dashes. I am a stickler for grammar and correct punctuation (except for punctuation inside quotes which my internal programmer won't allow me to do the American way) so I've started using em dashes -- and now people think I'm an AI.

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  • [–] 11 points 1 day ago* (2 children)

    That's no —, it's two hyphens playing pretend!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Wait, what's the rule for punctuation inside quotes? I don't think I've ever noticed a regional difference.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    In the US, the punctuation is supposed to be inside of the quotes, even if that punctuation wasn't actually part of what's being quoted. So if somebody says "your mother sews socks that smell," the quoted partial bit would be typed as "your mother sews socks." In Britain it would be "your mother sews socks". The difference might not be really obvious visually; it's whether that period (which is required to end the sentence) is before the end quote or after it. Apparently programmers in the US (like I used to be) have gravitated towards the British style because with string variables (which are generally delimited by quotes) you can't be farting around with adding phantom punctuation inside the quotes, even if it is grammatically correct here.

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  • [–] 10 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I'm I'm not mistaken, the reasoning for this goes back to the printing press era. The comma or period would be on the same type block as the quotation mark; dealing with individual blocks for , or " was too fragile or fiddly. So they had blocks for ," and ." that were used regardless of sentence structure

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  • [–] 25 points 1 day ago (5 children)

    I used to like the punch of "It's not just ___, it's ___" but I've pretty much removed that from my vocabulary.

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  • [–] 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I'm trying to stop using "for bonus points, ____". I don't have any bonus points left to give out.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (10 children)

    They’re useful—especially to avoid over-using other punctuation such as semicolons; I also use them to avoid back-to-back sentences with exclamation marks!

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

    I use them when connecting a thought in between another thought—for example, what I just did right now—and then returning back to the original thought. I use a semicolon when connecting two related thoughts together*; LLMs tend to only use one em-dash, so I'm hoping that by using two of them instead—and a semicolon instead whenever an LLM would use an em-dash—there will be no confusion as to whether or not I'm human.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    They’re useful. Especially to avoid over-using other punctuation such as semicolons. I also use them to avoid back-to-back sentences with exclamation marks!

    There you go. It's easier, clearer, and less pretentious.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Okay, but you've just created a sentence fragment, which is fine unless you were trying to use complete sentences.

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  • [–] 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I've just been using en dashes this entire time, was once accused of being a bot because I used them, and as a result I found out that I was using dashes improperly — and should instead use em dashes.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago* (1 child)

    Why do you care about the opinions of people who can't even fathom that someone might use Alt-hyphen to get an en dash (or shift-Alt-hyphen for an em dash)

    And that's on Mac. Obviously on Linux there are even more options. (Compose key and so on)

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