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[–] 68 points 3 days ago (32 children)

You can get a lot done when you've got 29 months in a year

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  • [–] 36 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    The weird US American Date scheme is not used in most of the world.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    I wish. Am European. I know one person that voluntarily uses their date and time formats. For reasons I will never comprehend.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    He or she must enjoy the endless confusion and friction in the interaction with others. That said, some idiotic IT systems use the US format to. Causes a lot of problems.

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  • [–] 4 points 3 days ago*

    I'm in the US and have had problems with C-level douches misreading dd-mm-yyyy dates in some system we had that logged in that format and freaking out (and also missing that the log time stamps were in UTC-0, causing further confusion/freakout)

    Anyway, this is part of why I always use yyyy-mm-dd, because nobody will confuse that date string for any other date, and everyone who can understand dates at all will be able to read it.

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    Because one lives the other should not long live Y-M-D

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  • [–] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (8 children)

    NO. You need a character per digit and you always want the leading 0 shown.

    YYYY-MM-DD

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (7 children)

    At least it makes my folders really easy to sort through...

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  • [–] 8 points 3 days ago (6 children)

    Only if you leave the leading zeros!

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (5 children)

    …or your file manager is smart enough to do numeric sorting

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  • [–] 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

    you should never make the assumption that software you use is smart, or even not complete garbage

    …and file managers aren’t the only things that display lists of files. low-level tooling should not be “smart” beyond the most basic sorting without specifically being told first

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago

    Then there's the problem with "smart" sorting like Windows Explorer does: in a folder with hex based naming, such as the gpo policy folders for an AD domain, it blends alphabetic and numeric in weird ways where it treats number strings as whole numbers in the middle, where a123e would show up after a19bc, as an example, even though it should sort first

    (Sorry, tangent)

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    ...And you assume you will only ever look at those files with that file manager forever...

    There is no downside to writing the leading zeroes pretty much anywhere except when aesthetics matter (event flyers, etc)

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  • [–] 16 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    ISO 8601 is the only correct way.

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  • [–] 3 points 3 days ago

    It's close, sure, but actually no. That standard currently requires the letter T (and no white-space) between date and time when both are present, and, frankly, that's ugly and a space should be allowed.

    An old version of the standard allowed the space, and GNU's coreutils seem to have carried on the tradition, so I'm not alone in thinking this.

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  • [–] 1 point 3 days ago (5 children)

    OP's graph uses slashes.

    Dashes would remove all the confusion.

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  • [–] 6 points 3 days ago* (4 children)

    No because it's the global format that typically uses periods.

    D.M.Y (normal)
    Y-M-D (superior)
    M/D/Y (mental illness)

    Mixing up the formats and denominators makes this mess even worse.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (3 children)

    you should also always specify YYYY-MM-DD because often M and D ignores leading zeros, YY means the 2 digit suffix, and Y… well, i don’t even know what that is but i’m sure it’s something less specific than YYYY

    if we’re going to be picky about being clear about things, let’s be truly clear about things

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  • [–] 2 points 3 days ago (1 child)

    YYYYY would be something like "The Year of Our Lord, Two-Thousand and Twenty-Six" (or probably just "Twenty Twenty-Six", but the other is more ridiculous so I'll go with that)

    Y would just be "6" but I can't think of any context where that would ever be used

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