My brother-in-law made me a coffee snob. So, he surprised me with this Lavazza Espresso. I honestly thought it would taste like "Welcome Centre" coffee, but it was not bad. Sweet, oily, and quite easy to enjoy. But, it's just one of those things where I would only buy it if there were not many other choices.

Pointless fun fact with name drop, cause I am the main character right now, the cappuccino cup I am using came as a set, that was a gift from retired NBA player Danillo Gallinari. They were two, one fell and broke when I was in Texas. I have it in a box and will super glue it together some day. Also included were two espresso cups that I've never used.

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[–] 4 points 8 hours ago (1 child)

I don't find them to be high quality, but they are definitely not low quality. I wish they came in whole beans, but it is what it is.

Fun fact: During covid, I suffered from paranosmia. As a result, and all coffee smelled and tasted like wrotten fruit.
All coffee, that is, except for Lavazza, which still smelled and tasted like decent coffee.
Lavazza was my saving grace and, they will forever hold a special place in my heart (even if not in my coffeebar).

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  • [–] 2 points 7 hours ago

    My wife had parosmia for more than a year after anosmia from covid and she had the same issue with coffee. At the beginning she asked me if I'd started adding garlic to our espressos... 😅 I never did try Lavazza with her, unfortunately.

    But just a small correction: anosmia is when you lose your sense of smell. Parosmia is when your sense of smell is distorted. But I think "paranosmia" would be when you can smell ghosts and wear-wolves! 🙃😜

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    I usually won’t touch anything from a supermarket or bulk store. My machine just does not perform well with them.

    However I find in some places ALDI do a decent budget bean. You have to check the dates but the quality of bean, the small range (usually just three roasts, or the occasional special roast) and fast turn around of product is a real good value offering.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (13 children)

    Lavazza is pretty much the ultimate proof that I lack the sensitivity to be a proper coffee snob. It's basically the nicest coffee I ever buy myself and any real connoisseur probably calls it adequate at best.

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    I would bet good money half of the connoisseurs have wooden tongues and fake it.

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  • [–] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Oh my god, I so hope you're right. One time I was at an espresso bar in Seattle (I'll name and shame since this was like a decade ago, it was Trabant in the U district) and this guy served up an espresso shot SO SOUR that I couldn't even finish the wee shot glass of it.

    So I asked him if it's supposed to be this sour and he pulled another shot in front of me, drank it, and looked me dead in the eye and said it wasn't sour.

    Hand on a bible, it tasted like an entire crabapple tree that had been infused with battery acid by Dr. Frankenstein and had come to life to kick my ass. It tasted like the metaphorical bitter cup to drink from that this entire last decade has been, so much so that I wonder if things would have been different for the world had I never tasted it.

    So, thanks. I felt gaslit, and I've been carrying that with me for a long time.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

    Can confirm. It’s adequate. Also, I’ve been permanently spoiled by single origin light roast specialty coffee. When I’m having a random cup from somewhere, in my mind I immediately compare it with something that costs at least 3 times as much.

    Lavazza is fine if you’re playing around with an espresso machine and want to learn the basics. It’s also fine if you’re mixing it with milk.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    What would you reach for as an adequate price performing coffee for a moka pot? I know it's not espresso, but it's what I've settled into over the years.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

    A moka pot is kinda special. If you want something a bit stronger than normal drip coffee, it delivers quite easily.

    It can also blow burning hot steam through the grinds unless you know what you’re doing, which results in bitter coffee. Hoffman made a great video about that, so be sure to check it out. If all you want is convenience, get the cheapest coffee you can find and let the steam do its thing. Use plenty of milk to cover the flaws of both the method and the beans. With milky drinks, the coffee doesn’t really matter. The milk does the heavy lifting, as long as it has enough fat.

    If you want to make good coffee with a moka pot, watch the Hoff video and grab the cheapest light roast you can find. It doesn’t have to be specialty coffee, as long as it’s light. In my area, every supermarket carries at most 2 light roasts at very reasonable prices due to the massive production volume. The rest of the aisle is occupied by approximately 40 medium roasts and 20 dark roasts, which I ignore entirely. They don’t taste that great even though they cost more.

    You’ll need to put some time, effort and skill into the brewing technique, but you can make something quite tasty. Due to the dimensions of the pot, the result is always going to be strong. Don’t expect anything close to drip coffee. With a light roast, you can drink it as is. I’d recommend tasting it before adding any milk.

    You can also cut the brewing short halfway, which produces something closer to espresso, but without the fine grind and high pressure. Honestly, I couldn’t tell the difference when I tried it with Lavazza Espresso beans. Apparently that’s where I bump into the limitations of my tasting skills.

    One thing you shouldn’t do: don’t put your fancy light-roasted specialty beans in a moka pot. Pour over and AeroPress will produce something far more delightful. Could be a skill issue, but I’ve never been able to make the most of expensive beans in an espresso machine or a moka pot.

    With espresso and moka pots, always go with something on the cheaper end of the spectrum. Check what’s available in your area, look at all the lightest options, sort by price, and pick the cheapest. Ignore all medium and dark beans for now.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Thanks! I'll look for a cheap light roast, though they're definitely not as prevalent in my neck of the woods. I do love my aeropress for some things, though it's mostly been relegated to how I take my yerba maté these days. If all I can get is some specialty single origin stuff, I'll treat it more gently.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Yeah, it’s weird how roast level 1 is so hard to find, but anywhere from 3 to 5 is well represented.

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  • [–] 2 points 21 hours ago

    James Hoffmann mentions it in a video of his, a lot of commodity coffee uses “strength” to mean roast level, and most people don’t want “weak” coffee so on a level of 1-5, usually 1 & 2 don’t exist. So 3 is light, 4 is medium, 5 is dark. Of course not everyone follows that but it is pretty common.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    If I'm buying from a grocer instead of single origin specialty sellers, Lavazza Oro is a staple go-to. I never met a Lavazza I didn't like.

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  • [–] [S] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I agree. Very likeable. But I can't see myself with a bag. How does the Oro go down? I've been seeing ads about it, but didn't pay them any attention.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Oro is a likeable, without being exceptional espresso. Balanced acidity, good crema, naturally sweet. Because its a blend, nothing stands out flavour wise. It's marketed for consistency, not oustanding properties. Maybe a hint of stonefruit, but I'm being overly generous.

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  • I completely agree with the chronicler that cheaper espresso beans often make some of the best old world espresso. Even blends with a touch of Robusta can be very good. The really good lighter roasted stuff often fares better as low pressure coarser soup shots.

    For old world espresso my fave right now is a can of illy costa Rica.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I find illy has a better flavour than lavazza

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    When i first got my budget espresso machine i bounced around different espresso brands until i found LavAzza. Absolutely loved it the first time i tried it, bought it for a few years, and only stopped getting it because my retailer source was Amazon and i wanted to stop buying stuff from there. I switched to Redbird, which is also amazing (better imo, but thats just me), but still ocassionally get LavAzza if i spot it in store while im out running errands.

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  • [–] [S] 2 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    Do you usually stick to one brand or do you mix it up?

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago

    For a while id grab whatever didnt taste bitter, but lately ive been sticking to my local grocery store brand of whole beans for coffee and redbird for espresso when i feel like dealing with the machine. Ill try new stuff when i notice it, but usually end up back to my go-to brands.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago

    LoL, just entering my 'coffee snobbery' phase. I'll be heading over to my local roastery to get some tan beans after the morning rush. What is the 'brand loyalty' of which you speak?

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