For Kelsey Gellner, a Seattle-based pediatric nurse, a statewide proposal to bar trans girls from sports participation feels like a violation of her duty as a medical professional. The ballot initiative includes a requirement she calls “invasive and extreme”: all students who wish to compete on girls’ teams would have to undergo genital exams.

“I tell my kids and patients that my No 1 job is to keep them safe,” said Gellner, who is also a board member of the Washington State Nurses Association. “I can say with confidence that girls do not want to have an unnecessary exam that creates an unsafe barrier.”

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[–] 11 points 1 day ago

Pedophiles gonna pedophile. Create rules "to protect women and girls" whilst endangering women and girls.

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  • [–] 6 points 1 day ago

    Isn't it interesting that the party supporting sweeping Epstein and other pedo crimes under the rug is also the party that wants laws which look at childrens' genitals?

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago

    So you're going to create a bunch of discomfort and probably trauma for tens of thousands of girls to bully 3 kids you don't like? Oh yeah, these anti trans fuckheads have the moral high ground.

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  • [–] 4 points 1 day ago* (3 children)

    This has always been the inevitable outcome of going down this path. I hate to say it but these reactionaries won’t understand until it’s their own children being forced to choose between playing sports or not getting assaulted by school sports officials who want to “check their genitals”.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    They don't want girls doing sports. Or anything besides playing with dolls to prepare for when they get baby trapped by a chud around 16-24.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (1 child)

    I'm Washington? There's no way that's gonna pass.

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  • [–] 9 points 1 day ago

    Christ, conservatives are really weird people.

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  • [–] 7 points 1 day ago (4 children)

    It's really disgusting to see so many people on here excusing this vile invasion of girls' privacy. These genital exams have absolutely nothing to do with health; they are only to confirm the sex of the child. They are transphobic, creepy, and discriminatory. Boys will not be subjected to the same type of genital exam.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Are we in the same thread? Who is excusing this here?

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (2 children)

    There are people here comparing this to a physical examinations and tailor fittings, saying there's really no difference.

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  • [–] 1 point 20 hours ago (1 child)

    Pretty sure that is a joke from an old Friends episode.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0583562/

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  • [–] 1 point 11 hours ago

    Fair enough, I didn't realize the inseam comment and the original one comparing these proposed genital exams to a hernia check were from a Friends episode. For a minute it seemed like people were equating physical health checks for sports to these genital exams.

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  • [–] 9 points 2 days ago* (3 children)

    Yeah, so…

    Read this shit and then remember that there are people here that won’t vote, and recommend that you don’t either. Then remember that they’re here to try and guarantee a MAGA victory.

    Then vote your fucking ass off.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Sure vote, but also by a gun and be ready to use it when they announce republicans are staying in office or that votes are really just a suggestion and the results were rigged anyway.

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  • [–] 12 points 2 days ago (16 children)

    It was weird to do it for pee wee football as a young boy too...

    A hernia check was part of the physical, and that included a doctor holding your balls and having you cough.

    We could just have universal healthcare though, and normal annual exams should be a thing regardless of athletic participation.

    The only reason any sports physical is ever needed, is a shit ton of kids don't normally see a doctor. Give them all access to medical care, and every kid would already be getting an annual exam, and there's be no need for any child to get one just for sports.

    Just a form from a doctor saying "____ is medically able to play ____ at _____" that you get whenever your annual is, good for a year.

    Covers every base.

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  • [+] -6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    That's really no different than what my tailor does when measuring my inseam.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    That's quite a tailor you have there. Do they charge extra for 'inseam adjustments' ?

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    Frankie always gets me a good deal. My family's been going to him forever. He did my first suit when I was 15.

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  • [–] -5 points 2 days ago (9 children)

    That's, uh, not standard my guy.

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  • [–] 11 points 2 days ago (8 children)

    https://www.medicaldaily.com/why-does-doctor-hold-your-testicles-and-ask-you-cough-during-physical-395348

    https://scienceoxygen.com/do-you-have-to-check-for-hernia-for-sports-physical/

    https://www.restonyc.com/do-they-check-your-private-parts-in-a-sports-physical-for-a-boy/

    Now, state to state is bound to be some variation so definitely not saying you're lying if you never got checked...

    But did you personally ever do a sports physical for football?

    It wasn't a secret, we all talked about how fucking weird it was. Definitely a normal part of the exam. The entire team pretry much all went at the same time to the same clinic every year the day the forms were passed out.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (7 children)

    Can confirm. Always hated this for pop warner football as a kid in the 90s.

    "Turn your head and cough."

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  • [–] 6 points 2 days ago (6 children)

    There's a bunch of people on here that never have any idea what they're talking about, but constantly want to tell everyone what their uninformed opinion is.

    It's really fucking weird, and almost always comes from the fringe instances.

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  • [+] -11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

    My physicals did not include getting groped by adults to "check for hernias."

    I'm sorry you guys lived in pedo states.

    There's also, btw, a difference between a sports physical and the physical a 40+ year old man gets to make sure he doesn't have colon cancer, since you seem confused on the matter. Not to mention unironically saying "they did it to me 30 years ago!"

    You know, because they're cheaper and less invasive...

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  • [–] 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    You are an idiot. It's a standard medical test and you are the one making it weirdly sexual.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 day ago (1 child)

    Abuse victims are often the most fervent supporters of abusive systems, and predators often seek positions of access.

    Figure it out, dum dum, meanwhile the civilized world isn't groping children's genitals for problems they aren't reporting like "my balls hurt from a famously painful condition"

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  • [–] 3 points 1 day ago

    The necessity of it could be argued, but the motivation of it was medical. A doctor performing a test that was mandated by the league does not make them a pedophile. It was a common practice that was well documented, not a secret in a back room. I can't say that it was necessary, I'm not a doctor. But pretending it was motivated by pedophilia is idiotic.

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  • [+] -19 points 2 days ago

    At first I was a little alarmed, but then I also realized, you have to get a physical before you can participate in sports in the first place

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