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[–] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 child)

Key word is Europe. Because us north-americans are stuck 30 years in the past in terms of transport, but with cars twice as big.

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  • Its for the best. Their company has been stuck without innovation on extremely outdated powertrain platforms since the early 2000s.

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  • [–] 0 points 56 minutes ago

    I've leased a couple of Imprezas the past 5 years. I love the car, it's so small but capable. A couple of years ago when my last lease was up, I wanted to get an EV or hybrid from Subaru but there were no options at the time. Now I'm torn on going with an EV or buying out my current lease (I don't want interior cameras).

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  • [–] 13 points 4 hours ago* (5 children)

    Last time I test drove a Subaru, I said to the dealer: "perfect car for me, except that it uses gasoline", and I left. So I like to think I contributed to this new "EV only" strategy.

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  • [–] 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

    You test drove the car famous for exactly two things, one of which is its boxer engine. What exactly were you expecting if not the famous boxer engine?

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  • [–] 3 points 3 hours ago

    I used to drive a forester, what a lovely car. Now driving an EV 4WD. The advent of EV cars has changed the paradigm. A low down battery plus two or four motors for the wheels. The advantages of superior engine placement, transmission, drivetrain is all irrelevant now. I'm likely to stick with Japanese or Chinese simply because of the extra toys that not additional extras.

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  • [–] 10 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

    I thought lots of European countries had upcoming bans on the sale of new ICE cars. So surely this is just getting ahead of that.

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  • [–] 5 points 8 hours ago

    The industry lobbied hard against that only to realize that with the current has prices people actually start to prefer EVs and people are still wondering why the European auto manufacturers are falling even more behind.

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  • [–] -1 points 5 hours ago (4 children)

    Define 'lots'.

    Because around half of the EU (and an even larger share of Europe) has next to zero EV infrastructure in place. Banning ICE cars would be banning cars, period.

    If 'lots' is France, Germany, and Switzerland, then yeah, maybe.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago

    I'm Norwegian, and I've had two rowdtrips to the northern part of Italy with two different ECS, a Hyundai Kona some five years ago and a Tesla Model 3 two years ago. No stress, only Italy was a little bit weak five years ago. So things are definitely improving

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  • [–] 9 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    That’s a bold move, considering they’re only just now getting around to making their own EV - their earlier models are all basically rebadged Toyotas, iirc.

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  • [–] 16 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

    I like and completely support the idea, but i was under the impression that the only reason that they're still a bit relevant in europe is the aficionados to the boxer engine. If they only sell rebadged toyota EVs, can they survive? I'm not a CEO but it doesn't seem smart to rebadge half-assed EVs from a company that doesn't believe in EVs.

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  • [–] 17 points 12 hours ago (3 children)
  • [+] -6 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    So a bunch of uninspired suvs. /yawn

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  • [–] 8 points 8 hours ago

    I'm interested to know from where you glean this, since "Subaru hasn't disclosed battery capacity, charging speed, or real-world range for this prototype. The company stresses that the test mule's wagon body has nothing to do with what a production vehicle will look like."

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  • [–] -2 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

    They can hardly make a functional ICE car that wont break down in the first place, so they might as well give up.

    Im pretty sure half of their US sales just go to Coloradans that want an “outdoorsy person” brand SUV and dont know any better than to buy one. Theyre like the L.L. Bean of cars, if L.L. Bean somehow made clothes that fell apart within the first week of ownership

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  • [–] 4 points 4 hours ago

    lol Subaru's absolutely do not fall apart within the first week of ownership. Year after year they're rated amongst the most reliable vehicles. I regularly take my outback wilderness offroad and it does fine, and this vehicle performs better in the winter than anything else I've ever driven- and my job has me in different rental cars for 1-3 days biweekly.

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  • [–] 10 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

    If only the TNGA platform offered 20-30kWh more, the E-Outback would be really compelling

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  • [–] 4 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    Agreed. I generally like the Trailseeker, but its battery seems way too small.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago

    My mach e gt has similar quoted range, and i find it perfectly adequate. I know subaru owners take their dogs on camping trips every single weekend, but i didnt realize the camp sites were all 2 hours from home.

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  • [–] 4 points 12 hours ago (1 child)

    It’s pretty efficient, too actually! But attach a trailer or put anything on the roof, and the small battery and slowish charging become real limits. Camping and winter driving are also big factors for these vehicles.

    It still is a very promising product, I hope it will improve further, its platform came a long way but is not there yet.

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  • [–] 1 point 4 hours ago

    Yeah I have a 1.5 hour freeway drive to our weekend ski area and we use a low profile roof box on a crosstrek and get about 26-27 mpg.

    Without the roof box and snow tires it gets 31-32 mpg. So I lose at least 15%.

    It’s often between -10 to +15°F as well. I don’t think I could make it round trip in the winter. At least with the skis on the roof.

    As of last season there was no charging at the mountain. There was a regular Deplorean and one Lightning in the parking lot, but I’m pretty sure the Lightning guy was local.

    Side note. The parking lot is probably 40% Subarus. Never seen a B4Xwhatever there.

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  • [–] 1 point 13 hours ago

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  • [–] -2 points 13 hours ago (11 children)

    Do they even make any electric vehicles?

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  • [–] 8 points 12 hours ago* (10 children)

    Yeah, 4 of them built on the joint subaru-toyota platform.

    Subaru Solterra = Toyota bZ
    Subaru Uncharted = Toyota C-HR
    Subaru Trailseeker = Toyota bZ Woodland
    Subaru Getaway = Toyota Highlander

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    They literally make them, sharing a platform isn't like badge engineering. Collaborating with Toyota is why they could make their BRZ so cheap, probably the same thing applies here.

    They're working on an in-house platform though, if you want something with more Subaru involvement.

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  • [–] -4 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

    They don't make them. Toyota does.

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  • [–] -4 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    So a bunch of uninspired suvs. /yawn

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