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Pope Leo XIV @Pontifex: In this era of artificial intelligence, it is becoming urgent to distinguish human art from what machines produce. There is an ontological difference, even before an aesthetic one, between art and what a machine can generate through statistical calculation based on millions of images created by others. Algorithms lack the spark of humanity. For this reason, the Church wishes to renew an alliance with artists and cultural institutions to safeguard our humanity.

Spectro @Spectromachina: Pope, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you do not understand? You’re not an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no weight in this debate and you’re being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. how many local models do you run?

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[–] 25 points 4 hours ago

Pope is quite famously an elected position...

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  • [–] 28 points 6 hours ago*

    “AI influencers” are incredible idiots even amongst idiot influencers. Like said below, using that term as some kind of respected title is beyond ridiculous.

    I’m pretty into the local ML space, and I can’t name a single “influencer” that isn’t a shameless scammer or totally unhinged. Or both. Not one that posts anymore, anyway.

    Even if they’re talking about some early researchers who Tweet, if you actually listen to them, they’re calling out transformers LLMs as dead ends and have moved to other spaces in ML.

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  • [–] 40 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

    So, he was elected, by the cardinals.

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  • [–] 47 points 8 hours ago

    Spectro, would you please shut the fuck up about matters you have a financial stake in? You're an Ai influencer, no one elected you, and you have absolutely no impartiality in this debate and you're being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion. How many fascists do you pay fees to every month?

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  • [–] 35 points 7 hours ago (1 child)

    The dumbest thing here (and it was a tough competition) was using the term "influencer" to imply expert authority.

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  • [–] 23 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

    how many local models do you run?

    I will ask this every AI shill from now on. We all know they are just OpenAI bootlickers

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

    I mean, I’m probably one of those people you’d call out, and I’ve never had an OpenAI subscription, never downloaded the app. Not once. I payed a few pennies for A/B tests via API, is all.

    I’ve thought Sam Altman was a creep for a long, looong time.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 hours ago*

    The Pope is the highest ranked moron on Earth, exalted above all other dopes.

    Like, instead of a town fool, he's our planet's fool.

    Please note that you are supporting him (and rabbis, imams, pastors) with your taxes, because we all know that the Catholic church is super poor!

    (Catholics own 170 million acres, more than any other organization)

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  • [–] 4 points 5 hours ago*

    Tbf tech bros understand shit about what "AI" is too so...

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  • [–] -1 points 2 hours ago

    Completely avoid the fact that politicians also don't know how AI, or any tech, works.

    Ignore the idiots that help you, but yell at the 'idiots' that make your feelings hurt.

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  • [–] 81 points 11 hours ago (1 child)

    "you're not an AI influencer" got me barfing

    "noone elected you" : ok so this dipshit doesn't know the second thing about popes

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  • [–] 17 points 9 hours ago

    Specto has no business talking pope things, since they're no pope.

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  • [–] 70 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    Kinda hate these idiots are pushing me to side with the pope

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  • [–] 75 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

    You can hate on the church for many things, but you can't deny that they've been one of the art world's biggest patrons for thousands of years.

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  • [–] 7 points 6 hours ago

    To be fair, they patronized artists from tithes collected from the population. So it's hard to say how much art didn't happen because there was less free time available.

    It's like how Rockefeller got a plaza named after him for his philanthropy after being a monopolist. We see the help they did but what was lost is invisible.

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  • [–] 45 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

    Well that’s mainly because of all the satan statues they commission being too sexy—leading them to have to pay a new artist to tone it down. Except the new statue comes out even sexier, leading them to commission a new artist to…

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  • [–] 23 points 13 hours ago (1 child)

    No matter how much I abhor the bs that comes with it, I can still find myself in some awe in a grand cathedral. At least I can attribute that to something someone did with their hands, and not a raindrop in a cloud of staggering uncare spewing forth into the mouths of people who aren't interested in tasting the slopfest

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  • [–] 9 points 10 hours ago

    Name three songs, Pope.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago

    I'm sure that popes react well to being told to (adjusts glasses) "shut the fuck up."

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  • [–] 119 points 16 hours ago* (7 children)

    Only an "AI influencer" can weigh in on the use of AI? Gee, I'm sure that will lead to nothing but a reasonable, balanced, and nuanced consideration of the issue 🙄

    also, lol @ "how many local models do you run?" as if those aren't also trained on millions of stolen images. Do you even lift run local models bro?

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  • [–] 10 points 9 hours ago (1 child)

    If any group should have exclusive opinions about LLM generated images, it should be human artists

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  • [–] 4 points 8 hours ago

    Yeah, the topic here is really art, so if anyone should have the say about it it should be artists. Art is also subjective though so anyone should be able to have their opinion and I agree with the Pope on this one.

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  • [–] 20 points 14 hours ago*

    Ironically as you stated the do you even ai bro is likely using a model he didn’t build that some company based on stolen material, when the Vatican actually does run several private models they actually trained themselves, based mostly on texts in their extensive private library, formed to assist in translations mostly. Though many of those texts are likely stolen during the crusades and other notorious events as well.

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    Lol what an idiot. Yes the Pope was elected by the enclave (white smoke, you know) and even if I dislike the catholic church, Pope Leo is right here. Fuck Spectro and their disrespect.

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  • [–] 59 points 17 hours ago

    "you're being used as a mouthpiece to sway public opinion"

    "Yes... I am God's representative on Earth..."

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