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Nokia 3310 with modern technology would only need to be charged once a month (feddit.org)

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Just imagine the 3310 with 2nm technology and a modern battery that fills up the then available space. It would run forever(tm)

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[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 5 points 8 hours ago

Now give it an e ink display

[–] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

A big difference would be the radio hardware. The 2G GSM radio had a huge Tx output. It was about 2 watts. 5G NR is 0.2 watts.

[–] A_norny_mousse@piefed.social 13 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

A reboot has existed since 2017.

I don't care much about 2nm, but this one probably runs an OS that's miles more complex than whatever the original ran. Still I'd be curious about its battery life.

BTW those batteries are replaceable so you can actually test that part.

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[–] rants_unnecessarily@piefed.social 3 points 6 hours ago

Except that phone is utter shit and has nothing to do with the original one except the name.

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[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 1 point 18 hours ago (2 children)

Your link is broken.
Here is the one I think you mean, based on context and such.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_3310_(2017)

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[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca -4 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

It runs Android, so it’s just as hackable and vulnerable to authoritarian systems as any other smart phone.

Now if it was a true feature phone… good luck sideloading spyware. You’d have to disassemble the phone and mount the chips in an EEPROM reader to get anywhere, and that’s not an effective remote exploit.

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[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No, it doesn't run Android. Did you not read the introduction of the article?

I have a MRE Nokia phone, that can run a kind of ELF apps. There is no permission system so even worse than Android. At least apps can't run in the background so they can only exfiltrate SMSs and unconsensual photos when open, and the latter takes ages over EDGE...

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[–] vaionko@sopuli.xyz 1 point 11 hours ago

A have a few years old cheap android phone whose only job is to use a couple apps that refuse to work on LineageOS. I charge it every couple weeks. No sim, but constantly connected to wifi.

[–] Chiahna@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 19 hours ago

If I could get my hands on linux phone with colour e-ink display I'd buy that shit in a heartbeat

[–] LazyGit@feddit.org [S] 14 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

And you could play snakes on overdrive

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[–] WereCat@lemmy.world 1 point 13 hours ago

modern tech would bring DLSS and PathTracing into snake which would allow it to run at well over 60FPS (with 6x frame gen)

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[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I had a job testing games on feature phones. I’ve played so much snakes in my life on a number pad.

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[–] foggy@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago (1 child)

You could have a phone that did what that phone does that has the form factor of an iPhone that would last at least 2.5 weeks with near constant use.

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[–] TheReanuKeeves@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

no name® should drop an iphone SE sized yellow block with the word "cellphone" in black on it

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[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 7 points 21 hours ago (5 children)

I wonder if the more modern mobile network protocols require slightly more power than the 2-3G of old. It's probably a rounding error; it would run forever™ minus an hour or so.

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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 11 points 18 hours ago (4 children)

Not just slightly more power. A lot more power.

Mind you, performance went through the roof compared to 2/3G. Performance per watt went up. But to get that sweet 200-600Mbps wireless, you need more power. More uptime on the modem.

A phone from 25 years ago would "stay connected" to the network but idle the modem or even shut down higher functionalities beyond the standard connection ping. A modern phone is CONSTANTLY streaming data. Push notifications. Optimised download of music, syncing of photos, emails, chat messages for your 74 different apps in their different protocols. There's no built in protocol to optimise a specific channel (SMS/MMS/RCS usage is considerably lower than iMessage, WhatsApp, Messenger, Viber, Telegram, etc.).

All that creep uses up resources. And unfortunately, the Windows Phone approach of designing for the lowest common denominator, with sane background task rules etc., went out the window around 2014 (even on desktop).

All of this combined makes a modern 3310 nigh impossible.

Or, you can have it, but it's not a phone worth having, because all it will be able to do is call, send text messages, and maybe have a basic browser built in...

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Well, a Nokia style phone would not need all this permanent movement of data. That is basically the point of such a device. Just Phonebook, phone, SMS, clock, alarm. But no Facebook, browser, Instagram, YouTube, photos and videos.

Optionally, a simple camera that only stores locally, and uploads to the PC via USB, and/or a simple MP3 player, also to be fed via USB. No cloud stuff, no network.

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Sounds a lot like the minimal phones that exist these days. Some of them really just call and text. Some are a bit nicer since they have navigation and a simple distraction free browser.

If you were to use only 2G and disable mobile data, it should last several days.

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[–] fonix232@fedia.io 5 points 17 hours ago (1 child)

Sure, but 2G networks don't exist anymore. Even 3G is being phased out.

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[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 4 points 17 hours ago*

And that’s why this whole idea is getting increasingly unrealistic. The world has moved on, and there’s no going back. But in theory, it should still be possible to get amazing battery life with modern chips and batteries. You would also need to change the phone grid to make that dream fully come true.

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[–] hexagonwin@lemmy.today 2 points 19 hours ago

seriously. i want a modern phone with extremely long battery life without being insanely heavy.