I heard that Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales leaders are planning to meet to break up UK. Is it really true? Anyone from UK here who can tell me what is actually happening there?

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[–] 5 points 55 minutes ago* (last edited 45 minutes ago)

It started with this article: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/09/13/irish-scots-and-welsh-leaders-meet-to-plot-break-up-uk/

Basically right now an independence referendum in Scotland can only be authorised by the Westminster (London) government. Whether Scotland wants one or not, thats how it is.

For the first time there are independence-supporting administrations in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The first ministers of those countries will meet on Monday and agree a path forward, ultimately to make it harder for Westminster to say 'no' to future referendums.

This doesn't 'kick start the break up of the UK' - all it does is put pressure on Westminster not to block independence referendums when there's an appetite for them. The Prime Minister and his government can choose to ignore that. Nothing is changing.

The Telegraph and other right-leaning nonsense rags have latched onto this, exaggerating it because its red meat for their target audience. I think that's where the 'Russian interference' is, but I'm not a unionist and one of them might explain it better.

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  • [–] 5 points 1 hour ago

    They're planning to meet up to persuade the new prime minister (who is pro devolution generally) to do it in such a way as to allow the national assemblies to have more power, but it being a secret plot to break up the UK is a bit of rightwing hysteria and a massive over exaggeration.

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  • [–] 10 points 2 hours ago (7 children)

    I support the removal of Northern Ireland from the UK so that it can be reunited into the Irish Republic.

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  • [–] 8 points 2 hours ago (6 children)

    did you ask northern Ireland first?

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  • [–] 17 points 2 hours ago (5 children)

    Did England fucking ask Northern Ireland first?

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  • [–] 7 points 2 hours ago (9 children)

    No. Not true. There are very vocal groups that are calling referendums and voting on things that are not even part of the scope of elections to divide the union.

    All this noise could be a Rusia operation to reduce the influence that together production and labor markets can yield much more than independently. Doing that without being part of a common market like the EU is simply not happening, no one will win anything if it comes to happen, just Rusia and other hostile countries.

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  • [–] -1 points 2 hours ago (6 children)

    "Every political movement I disagree with is Russian"

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  • [–] 11 points 2 hours ago (4 children)

    Lots of divisive political movements in the West really are pushed and supported by Russia. Are you disputing that?

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (3 children)

    Obviously not. Are you disputing the legitimacy of the welsh and scottish independence movements? Which I'm sure you are extremely knowledgable on.

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    Frankly I think the UK would like it if NI rejoined Ireland, it’d probably make things a lot simpler for everyone. There was a vote in the 70s and it was like 99% remain in the UK. The UK government has said that they’ll do a vote if it ever looked like the majority might want to rejoin but it’s not there right now. I know a few people from there and they agree with that.

    I understand that a party that wants to reunify got voted into power there for the first time ever but I don’t think it was on any promise to reunify if you know what I mean, but I think things are slowly heading in that direction.

    If the people of NI actually wanted to reunify I don’t know anyone in England who would have a problem with it, but the government won’t hand over any land if the majority of the people there want to remain part of the UK. Trump is just making his comments because he’s pissed that the UK wouldn’t help with the Epstein Wars.

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  • [–] 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 45 minutes ago) (1 child)

    Ignore the comments here saying that this is Russian interference or that it came “out of nowhere”.

    Ireland has always wanted independence and has wanted to reunite since partition happened. The people in Ireland who identified as British opposed that and had the entire British state/terror services at their disposal. That has changed a lot and now even British settlers here are talking publicly and seriously about the potential (pros and cons) of reunification.

    The vast majority of Britons are ignorant and diseducated on this matter so be careful which comments you trust.

    It was never meant to last forever but the tide has been turning for some time now.

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  • [–] 13 points 2 hours ago (3 children)

    not for a while. There are always calls for independence from groups there but Scotland had a vote to stayor leave a while back and they wanted to stay.

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  • [–] 14 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

    Something they came to regret after brexit. I doubt the vote would be the same today.

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  • [–] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    I haven't looked at it recently but it was a close vote, like withing a couple percentage points.
    I doubt any of the current parties have the political capital to run the vote again in the near future.

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  • [–] 5 points 2 hours ago

    No, this is out of nowhere and it's basically just a formal request to the prime minister

    If it goes anywhere, it'll take some time

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  • It’s not breaking but it’s certainly broken

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago

    No, it's not true.

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  • [–] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 child)

    Only if Reform keeps winning. So make goddamn sure they don't.

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  • [–] 2 points 3 hours ago

    Without any further information whatsoever: I believe it when I see it. Just like Belgium the UK is always supposedly one step from splitting.

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