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[–] 1 point 11 minutes ago

Also if you have sex with a minor is illegal but if you are the President then it's OK.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 hours ago*

    That's the secret to Conservative power in America.

    Step 1: Make everything illegal

    Step 2: Accept bribes to overlook crimes of allies

    Step 3: Punish the shit out of your opponents.

    Congrats! America is now Russia, with better food and shittier fascists.

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  • [–] 7 points 7 hours ago* (3 children)

    It's hilarious that everyone here is assuming he's not just straight up lying about giving that money to everyone and not just the people who vote Republican.

    They are very interested in state voter information.

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  • [–] 3 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

    I hate the orange turd but your comparison is not 100% right. He'd gift 5000$ to everyone, not just who voted for him. I think that's still illegal tho

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (2 children)

    It's not illegal. He gave out those COVID dividend checks and it was the most popular thing he's ever done. It's just a gross incentive for votes. The government needs that money for governance activities. It's like ripping the bathtub out of someone's house and gifting it to them "for free!"

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  • [–] 1 point 1 hour ago (1 child)

    I mean it's probably not typically allowed under any normal laws and regulations, but they can always find a loop hole to do something like that in a legalish manner (like under a state of emergency, or with an executive order SCOTUS upholds, or hijacking a program meant for something else).

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  • [–] 1 point 2 hours ago (1 child)

    I hate the orange turd and your observation is about 100% wrong. He will not pay anyone. He will keep the money himself.

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  • [–] 2 points 1 hour ago*

    I didn't mean he'd give a dime to anybody given the fact that he's a pathological liar but he didn't say "I will give 5000$ to those who vote for me" but "I will give 5000$ to everyone". And since I'm not a lawyer I don't know if that's illegal to say, as opposed to give "gifts" to only those who vote for a certain party

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  • [–] 22 points 22 hours ago

    Step 1: Have money.

    Step 2: Rape children (and adults).

    Step 3: Put an "R" next to your name.

    Congrats, you are now immune from consequences.

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  • [–] 11 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

    It's also legal to give someone money after the fact for a job well done, and it's definitely not a bribe.

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  • [–] 11 points 20 hours ago

    Well he did make it so tha tnothing he does in office is illegal, even if it’s illegal.

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  • [–] 47 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    They won't even let you stand outside a polling place and hand out water bottles to people waiting in line.

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  • [–] 6 points 20 hours ago

    In many countries it is legal to promise a tax rebate when you are in office. Many cons (oops, I mean conservatives) use this as voting bait for people with no critical thinking skills, and then turn around and give their corporate masters and billionaires huge tax cuts that make those same voters loose critical services that makw them pay out of pocket.

    In other words, "Heres $200 to vote for me so i can make your life way more expensive on a yearly basis through medical care, less regulation, less infrastructure repair".

    This is the same grift, but more blatant and obviously something that would never get fulfilled, which is why the number is so big. Bigger numbers make critical thinking fail harder, especially when times are economically tough. It tends to get cons reelected even when they are not doing well in polls, speaking from the Canadian experience in this.

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  • [–] 7 points 22 hours ago

    Law means nothing in a coup

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  • [–] 21 points 1 day ago

    The law only matters to us poor folks. It isn't applied to the rich.

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  • [–] 23 points 1 day ago

    If no one prosecuted you for it, it might as well be.

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  • [–] 24 points 1 day ago (16 children)

    Technically, the equivalent would be you standing outside a polling place with a sign saying “I will give every adult in the area $500 if Candidate X wins”.

    Ostensibly, you could just be lying (just like Trump) - and that would probably be covered under your 1st Amendment rights.

    It’s stupid, but there is enough of a disconnect between action and reward that it might skirt past.

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  • [–] 34 points 1 day ago* (15 children)

    No, that's not how that works.

    18 U.S.C. § 597 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 18. Crimes and Criminal Procedure § 597.

    Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate; and

    Whoever solicits, accepts, or receives any such expenditure in consideration of his vote or the withholding of his vote—

    Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and if the violation was willful, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or both.

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  • [–] 9 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

    "I will give you money if you vote for me"

    Is different from

    "I will give everyone money if I win"

    The first is paying someone to vote and is outlawed by the law you cited. The second has a disconnect between the money and the vote. Everyone gets the money, even those that voted for the other guy. Thus it might be legal.

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  • [–] 2 points 19 hours ago (1 child)

    Whoever makes or offers to make an expenditure to any person, either to vote or withhold his vote, or to vote for or against any candidate;

    "I will give everyone money if I win" is offering money to people for voting. Voting for the candidate is implied, yes, but offering to pay everyone is still offering money to people for voting.

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  • [–] 1 point 6 hours ago

    In the description of the law, how is that meaningfully different from promising tax policy changes?

    It's not telling people to vote, not vote, or to vote for anyone in particular, and is just a notification of something they'll do if elected.
    The implication is that you should vote for them, but you didn't make the offer conditional.

    Bribery is easier if you're using other people's money because rather than paying people to do what you want you can make a blanket promise to everyone and let them work through the implications.

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  • [–] 150 points 1 day ago (15 children)

    It's still illegal; it's just that nobody will enforce the law against the orange bastard. The motherfucker was literally convicted of 34 felonies and hasn't paid any fines or faced a minute of jail time, FFS.

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