UK Politics

You realise that most wars are fought over irrational xenophobia. Xenophobia is the easiest button to push for the populist vote.

Project fear, or where it refers to the supposed remainders in the Tory party is also lies. They were all in on it, suppressing reports on how bad it would be and trying to avoid EU tax regulations.

Cameron, May, all of them wanted it. It was a proper The Sting level big con. They are the slippiest of cunts. This isn't a bad article

https://medium.com/the-jist/was-eu-tax-evasion-regulation-the-reason-for-the-brexit-referendum-980ba88a8077

And if they can pull a “Falklands” in the next 12 months may keep their eternal grip on power. War with… er… Greece.. over some ancient… oh… Greek statues… anyone?

Boris Johnson (on camera): “there are no cameras here”

Man (pointing) “there’s one right there!”

Lying. It’s like breathing for these assholes.

Labour don't want to talk about Brexit because they're already on course to win the election by a landslide

Are they? Do they have any major policies or plans at all, or are they just relying on “well at least we’re not the Tories, right?”

I realise I don’t read the news much any more (because it’s depressing AF), but I’ve not seen anything to make me think the morons that voted for Brexit, and then confirmed it by voting in Johnson would do anything different this time around. Sure, they’re turkeys voting for Christmas, but they’ve done it twice, why assume they’ll learn the error of their ways?

Labour don't want to talk about Brexit because they're already on course to win the election by a landslide

I'm afraid I'm a little sceptical of Labour winning. Not because I don't want them to win but because the voting in this country is fucked.

General election 2019, Boris got a "landslide" victory with "the largest ever vote for a single party" at 43% of the vote.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_United_Kingdom_general_election

The system is so fucked that Corbyn had 30% of the vote and still Labour lost 60 seats.

In 2015 the Tories kept power under Cameron with only 36% of the vote.

If a third of the population still think that Brexit has been a success, and you have to add the small handful of "always support Tory", then there may be still enough people in this place to keep them going because absolute numbers don't count, it's all about how well they are clustered.

Untill they are all kicked out, I don't know if I could believe it even if they announced that Labour has the majority of MPs.

I think we both agree that the opinion of the swing seats is a driving force of the Labour/Starmer narrative. Although Labour did not finish 3rd in the 2019 election, or am I missing something with "the people's vote".

That one third estimate seems very consistent for a lot polls I am seeing this year. I put it down to the audience who listen and accept the lies of GBnews, TalkTV and the multitude to far right paper media. My opinion is that a third of the country are living in an echo chamber of bullshit. They are convincing the turkeys to vote for Christmas. We need a Leveson enquiry 2.0.

Some have done well out of Brexit. They are just not the run of the mill man on the street. Brexit was always a con to rob the poor.

There wasn't a main point. It was advertised to every group as the solution to their specific grievance, like more money to the NHS, less immigration, less crime, cheaper housing, you name it. If you didn't like something, it was the EU's fault, if you did, we could do more of it without the EU shackles.

Brexit was sabotaged?