Please can you people just try to be kind to each other for one fucking thread

She says that many customers "are pleasantly surprised when they realise they don't have to tip 20% on top".

Maybe I'm too fucking european for this but 20 fucking percent? TWENTY PERCENT? That's being written in this article as normal tipping? Wtf?

"central to US dining culture" aka "central to small business tyrant exploitation".

Great to hear that they're paying their servers a living wage and they don't need the tips to survive anymore!

One underemphasized point is that normalized tipping is actually about having customers monitor and evaluate employees and what their wages should be. Similar to how the normalization of receipts became about ensuring that employees working counters could be held accountable to customers, the customers taking in the role of surveillance.

Rather than a form for worker solidarity, tipping culture has been appropriated by capital and turned into a means by which to put a manager's job onto customers, discipline labor, and drive down overall labor costs.

Of course you can't be a Trotsky and undo tipping culture by just not individually tipping, but it should go on the list of things to abolish.

Sounds good overall?

I think it's weird that it takes banning tips to pay staff fair wages.

Tip culture is bad because it drives down wages. We should seek to abolish tipping and raise wages directly but until it is abolished, folks should tip well when it is expected and otherwise avoid going places where they are expected to tip. Don’t be a

tipping discourse thread

• tipping is good because it's workers directly supporting workers
• tipping is bad because business owners use their customers to subsidize their lack of wages
• servers are kulaks of restaurants
• tipping is a legacy of slavery and jim crow

What'd I miss?

One thing I think about is that you would think since US restaurant owners essentially don’t pay their workers, the food would be cheaper, but generally speaking I don’t think there’s much of a difference. I know the restaurant industry has tight margins for owners (I don’t care), but I assume that all US business owners are very bad at what they do and extremely greedy, with restaurant owners being basically the perfect storm for bad at what they do and extremely greedy.

Is this another u.s. problem who they think us universal, like lack of public universal healthcare and school shooting prevent technology

ah always love a tipping discourse thread on chapo dot chat

This is common sense on a rational system. Current system is all about controll based on neoslavery