submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by to c/games@hexbear.net
 

No really, like what game is just trying so hard to be the most up to date, inclusive, socially and politically sensitive game in existence. Answers that would have been true at the time are good to.

There's always been games trying to force socialisation on gamers :p bioware rpgs often had discriminated against characters for example.

But I am not interested in any old game that's trying its corporate approved best. I want to see the extremes of itchio or whatever.

EDIT: I'm serious, I want like the game that would exist of you wrung all the discourse out of tumblr and put it in a game. Not "a few good takes" something that takes every opportunity to make some point about how it is good media with good politics and values. The sort of game that the frothing-mouthed gamers on twitter think the industry is always one boycott away from producing. Someone, somewhere, must have made something so earnest it deserves recognition.

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[–] 30 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Elden Ring, no I won't elaborate but if Gamers understood the lore they'd be really mad

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago
    • Fems should run the world, mascs are simply their attack dogs
    • chronic illness is godly
    • Idealism without materialism will never work due to the human flaws of leaders
    • The sins of the past will forever haunt the future
    • The inequities of the system will drive people to even worse ideologies
    • equality is a curse to the ruling class
    • the weakest in our society can find provide meaningful contributions if given nurturing

    That’s what I got off the top of my head

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  • [+] 25 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)
    [–] 24 points 3 weeks ago

    These are major studio games from a studio that is often criticized for wokeness, however:

    Tell Me Why - first major studio game with a trans man as the main character (trans man returns to small town Alaska and has to reconnect with estranged twin sister and deal with childhood trauma)

    Life is Strange: True Colours - main character is a queer musician with supernatural empathy powers. Rainbow auras help you learn to connect with and care about the people around you in a small Colorado mining town that you move to after years in foster care.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    Chess, half the characters are black.

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  • [–] 18 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

    It was the Sims.

    Which is also why there will be no Sims 5, because Jared Kushner and the Saudis now own EA. It doesn't matter how much money it makes, it doesn't matter if it was EA's second biggest cash cow after FIFA, it's the woke game and they'll kill it for political reasons.

    Fortunately Paralives looks like it's going to fill the gap.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    I hadn't heard of paralives, looks cool actually. I am begging for a real sims killer to scratch that itch. Inzoi looked to have some promise as well, but I've not heard much talk about it

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I think it's a hold off for now, they've got a good framework but it's a shell that needs fleshing out. The main issue I've heard mentioned is that characters don't feel that different to one another, the traits aren't producing personalities that are memorable or significant enough for people to feel that they are their own characters (assholes or otherwise).

    It is visually very appealing though, they've kinda nailed art design.

    I don't know about Inzoi, my best guess is it's in a similar state. Personally I think Unreal 5 graphics will hurt it though, Sims is a cartoon and thrives on that. I feel like realistic graphics looks great in promotional videos but makes everything less identifiable in isometric top down gameplay view where you need everything to be really exaggerated to be more visible.

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    [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Fursan al-Aqsa: The Knights of the Al-Aqsa Mosque

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    [–] 15 points 3 weeks ago (14 children)

    Metal Gear Solid V -the Phantom Pain

    The main character navigates a post op life. Supporting cast consists of a disabled man who propped up Sandinistas, a deaf woman who eschews the patriarchal shackles of clothing (she literally cannot breathe with clothes on), a group of child African soldiers who escape forced mining in Congo, and a shaman who finds cures to a virus that imposes colonization through linguistics

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  • [–] [S] 20 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

    It might just be me but I'm not sure that this character

    Is in the game to challenge patriarchy.

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  • [–] 20 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

    But once you recognize the secret reason for her exposure, you will feel ashamed of your words & deeds.

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 3 weeks ago (9 children)

    What's the term? Deckhead? (diagetic essentialist or something) People that confuse the fictional explanation for the structural one.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

    a deck head is part of a boat

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  • [–] [S] 13 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)
  • [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Oooh an explanation for why I insist on still using the term "fluff" instead of """lore."""" Rules are hard. They require concentration to chew through. They're what we call "crunchy." Stories about the game's universe are easy to chow down. You can practically suck them up through a straw. That's why they're "fluffy."

    Fluff exists to give meaning to crunch so we're not playing an abstracted game like Go or checkers. 40k has subsequently fallen away from this as lore has become its own thing, where the point is something other than explaining why my toy soldiers are fighting your toy soldiers.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago

    Hollow Knight: Silksong, no really I mean just read the lore see

    A princess kidnapped from a distant land now is in thralls of her abusive grandmother, the abused aunt of said princess helps her escape and it is the princess has determined that she will help the disabled, the queer, and the poor of this new land in overthrowing the obscene overlords trying to achieve immortality. Princess also helps everyone around her, like hunting food for the poor and disabled, looking for lost toys of children, donating money and resources to destroyed communities.

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  • [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Halo is the ultimate woke because the first game has bisexual lighting and master chef falls in love with an AI and there’s women marines

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    [–] 14 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Dragon Age inquisition is probably up there in woke vibes. Its got trans people, women with short hair, black people with influential positions, and most importantly it has a shitton of characters with that semi-fade every TV-lesbian had in the 10's.

    Sure if you read the text its not all that woke, having aristocrats and stuff, but thats not really what we're looking for it seems. More like what game screams "look at me! Im #woke!!" And that one does.

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  • [–] [S] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I'd love to know what's genuinely woke, as long as it's really deliberately that way.

    Just given the answers saying "corpogame 123" I think people needed more extreme biasing the other way since there's 0% chance it's not some weird indie game

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago

    Not every game could become Woke but there is a particle of Woke in every game

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  • [–] 12 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    Fields of Asphodel is a retelling of Persephone myth but it's written in tooth rotting fluffy "tumblr" way. It's very nice if you're feeling bad and just want to fall into some soft fluff. Also the interactive fiction r#ddit fucking hates this gayme because it's not gritty and "factually following the myth", so it even has the anti-tumblr crowd mad.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

    Also the interactive fiction r#ddit fucking hates this gayme because it's not gritty and "factually following the myth"

    This has always been a personal gripe of mine, people who act like you're doing something capital-w Wrong if you make a creative work based on a myth that doesn't follow the myth exactly. They fundamentally don't understand that stories are conversations and that once something's in the public arena, it's subject to reimagination and reinterpretation.

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    YES, thank you! like so what if i want to write an autistic, anxious Hades who is constantly checking if I'm okay while I'm trying to stop blushing cuz he's so dreamy. that is allowed.

    b-but just write original story then

    no, fuck you. I want to kiss Hades and I will

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago* (1 child)

    lol yeah I get this a lot because of how I like to portray demons in my creative works. Sure they're literal manifestations of sin but it's hard not to portray them sympathetically when Christian "sins" include things like communism, feminism, being LGBT, being a disobedient slave, opposition to genocide, and being indigenous on land Christians want.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

    I think neofeud fits your criteria

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  • [–] [S] 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    If there exists a negative review that can sell a game it's this one

    Clearly the creator has a lot of big ideas and a lot of thoughts, but there's a level of tonal whiplash to this game that's immediately exhausting. It will go from the most grim dystopian discussion to a sort of wacky over-the-top Futurama-style gag, followed up by a clumsy movie reference. It's just all deeply sophomoric and radiates with a lack of editing and experience.

    Which is probably why I wouldn't ask for a refund on this. I respect the effort, but it just exceeds my tolerances on too many levels.

    I need to check this out

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  • [–] 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

    I played Dragon Age Veilguard and it's fun asf and also pretty woke. I didn't play any of the older dragon age games so I can't speak for how true the criticisms of it not comparing are, but I can say I assume a lot of the criticisms were just tacked on to give volume to the people crying it was woke

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  • [–] 17 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

    I didn't play any of the older dragon age games so I can't speak for how true the criticisms of it not comparing are, but I can say I assume a lot of the criticisms were just tacked on to give volume to the people crying it was woke

    Veilguard sucked compared to most (every, in my opinion but I am the only person who liked the second one) of the dragon age games but not cause the reasons people claimed at the time. It wasn't terrible just really mid. They complained about all the previous ones too, so that was always kinda weird

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  • [–] 13 points 3 weeks ago

    there's a bunch of nerds who like DA2 for how it was designed around its constraints, and i appreciate parts of it, but i can't forgive the compromised gameplay and i hate mood wheels

    fuck ea i hope the saudis dissolve it and sell off the gay IPs

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    [–] 8 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

    One thing I noticed while playing Pillars of Eternity was how many boxes it checks.

    Opens with a strong female warrior character. Has a very even gender and race distribution in every region and faction. Challenges all the assumptions and tropes about race. Has a culture where the gender roles are entirely flipped. Has an allegory of England and an allegory of America, both of which are portrayed as repressive and ultra-chauvinistic in their own way. Anti-colonial resistance is normalized. There are no prominent "good guys". All the gods are either evil or chaotic and selfish. Devotees of these gods are shown as being narrow-minded. The god who starts out being coded as the good god ends up seeming very suspicious; the religious revival in support of him becomes a bloodbath between two nations that results in status quo ante. The precursor/model ancient civilizations did extensive ritual human sacrifice. There is a "retvrn to tradition" faction and they steal the souls out of babies. None of the character quests have a satisfying positive resolution. The player has to act against hereditary land ownership. There are several points where you can slaughter a community of sentient nonhuman beings, and the game massively guilt-trips you for it. The only truly good thing in the world is the all-recycling Earth itself.

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    [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago

    RDR2 is pretty woke

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  • [–] 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 child)

    Cozy Caravan. You run around as a guild representative helping people and selling items you make and you get produce by helping people pick crops and then keep some.

    Oh there is a game that I haven't gotten to play and I can't get the name right now, but you play as a Black ninja like person who steals artifacts from museums and return them to their country of origin.

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  • [–] [S] 6 points 3 weeks ago

    Re looted? It's woke but it's not the wokest, it's sort of tumblr woke. More a quip or a joke than the earnestness of a 19 year old's avaunt guard play that's going to single-handedly right all wrongs in the world.

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  • Ms. Pac-Man

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