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[–] 217 points 3 years ago (12 children)

Mandatory No-Mask is such a weird stance, it violates both Health&Safety and Personal Choice/Freedom.

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  • [–] 57 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    Was it even necessary? Like, does In-n-Out have so many staff still wearing masks that they've gotta mandate this?

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    Yeah, it's not. From my experience in the restaurant that I visit (in LA) I see maybe 1/4 or 1/5 that still wear them.

    As a parent of a pre-K kid (for those who don't know, daycares and schools for young kids are grand centrals for microbes) I no longer get sick from covid, but I can still tell I got it, because there are specific symptoms I'm still getting from it that are quite annoying. One of the worst is that for few days I feel just extremely tired. If I have nothing to do, and I can just sleep that time off. Working during that time is no fun.

    So even if mask reduces chance of getting that by half, it is still worth it. It also would help employer as being tired at job one won't get as productive as they normally could. And this is just my experience, and other people have it worse.

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  • [–] 5 points 3 years ago

    Just had it for the first time. About a week in I had a day where I was extremely tired, almost like I never fully woke up that morning despite getting a great night sleep. Pretty awful symptom and probably the worst of all the symptoms I had. I could barely function that day. Covid is a strange disease.

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    [–] [S] 154 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (16 children)

    Fun Fact: Roughly half of all cases of food poisoning in the US are due to sick employees not wearing masks.

    Sick Workers Connected to 41 Percent of Food Poisoning Outbreaks, CDC Reports

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago* (4 children)

    That's an interesting and even plausible sounding statistic. I wonder if you have a source?

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  • [–] 18 points 3 years ago* (1 child)

    Not OP but I too wanted to know a source so I did a search on this cool new website I invented with Al Gore called https://google.fu and found this from Smithsonian Magazine:

    The study examined 800 foodborne illness outbreaks reported by 25 state and local health departments between 2017 and 2019. Of the roughly 500 outbreaks linked to at least one known contributing factor, 205 of them, or 41 percent, involved ill workers.Jun 2, 202

    /s about inventing that with Al Gore. It was actually Tom Landry.

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    [–] 111 points 3 years ago (4 children)

    In & out burger - they’re the ones who print bible verses on their fry containers, aren’t they?

    If so, that tracks.

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  • [–] 96 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    This is an absolutely ludicrous policy.

    Imagine a company banning their employees from washing their hands or wearing hair nets?

    The only possible reason they could have to do this is an attempt to appeal to moronic conservatives.

    Do they realize that workers in food factories have been wearing masks for decades?

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    [–] 70 points 3 years ago

    Me in summer through winter of 2020: "Well, silver lining about COVID is that we all learned how to wear masks once this all blows over."

    Conservative family: "Agree!"

    Me during the unending apocalypse in summer 2023: "We should wear masks with the air quality so poor [unsaid: due to the now present and undeniable human-caused climate change."

    Exact same conservative family: "That sounds like socialism and fascism to me"

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  • [–] 48 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    I'm not terribly surprised, given as they print bible verses on their packaging. Sad to see another relatively decent Christian business go down the alt-right rabbit hole, but their burgers aren't good enough for me to risk the plague because they can't follow basic safety guidelines.

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  • [–] 16 points 3 years ago

    It's messed up. Imagine the memo said, that in-n-out bans hairnets, gloves and washing hands unless the offender has a medical note.

    I don't argue for mandating it, as it is very hot in the kitchen, and mask would make it even worse experience, but pandemic or not this makes sense when working on food, it makes it more sanitary, and if employees wants to wear masks all power to them, they should not be penalized.

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  • [–] 40 points 3 years ago (8 children)

    I had no idea the company was run by such huge assholes. I don’t think I’ve ever been to an In-n-Out, and now I know to avoid them.

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (7 children)

    You're not missing anything - they are pretty overrated with a very limited menu. In my opinion 5 Guys is better.

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  • [–] 37 points 3 years ago (6 children)

    This policy is obviously insane and, I hope, legally challengeable. That everyone is acting like this will cause all the customers to die is alao absurd. I live in a pretty liberal area of the country and basically no one is wearing masks anywhere.

    I went to in-n-out yesterday and literally no one there had masks, customers or employees.

    My wife and I ate in the car as per usual, but I know full well that we're some of the last holdouts.

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    [–] 27 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Just wear a religious face covering then

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  • [–] 12 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    A place that bans masks doesn't come off as the type to be tolerant to religious freedom either...

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    With the composition of the supreme Court right now that doesn't matter. Just say you're a devout Christian and that they're impinging your rights, doesn't matter if you have to lie about the essential facts of the case even they will side with you.

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  • [–] 24 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    The people who made this decision when they talk about vaccines: "My body, my choice, you can't tell me what to do!"

    Same people, when they talk about masking, abortion or anything else: "Your body, my choice, I can and will tell you what to do!"

    My skull would probably crack from the cognitive dissonance if I tried holding these two opinions, but it seems some people have no issues with it at all...

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  • [–] 21 points 3 years ago (1 child)

    Tell us you're an insane conservative without telling us you're an insane conservative.

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    And this, my friends, is what virtue signalling actually looks like.

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  • [–] 13 points 3 years ago (2 children)

    Okay, so what if the employee is protecting the customers from themselves? If the employee had a sniffle or whatever I would much prefer they wore a mask.

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  • [–] 10 points 3 years ago

    Er... What?

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  • [–] 8 points 3 years ago (3 children)

    USA, you all are nuts. Imagine banning masks in a hospital.

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  • [–] 19 points 3 years ago* (last edited 3 years ago) (1 child)

    Bro don't give the crazies ideas please.

    There are no doubt many US hospitals where this would fly.

    No fucking doubt.

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  • [–] 7 points 3 years ago

    At least the lines will be shorter after they've infected enough of their older customer base

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  • [–] 6 points 3 years ago*

    It's difficult for things to go in and out with a mask, so it makes sense to me /s.

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